Originally Posted by Sandra Bigwoode

Because the perceived cooling effect you feel on your hand is a combination of convection and sweat evaporation on living tissue which is not applicable on non-living air cleaner systems.

Originally Posted by Sandra Bigwoode

Originally Posted by bremillard

I guess you are one of Vararam's faithful who actually think that you are getting some type of forced air from their intake. It ain't happening dude!. If there is any positive affect on horsepower it would be due to cold air not ram air. I have raced stock, superstock, supergas and super comp and have tested air scoops ad nauseum. I know(read that beyond a shadow of a doubt) what generates positive air pressure in an intake tract and what does not. THE BEST possible air scoop design needs almost 100 mph to show any positive pressure within it. If you add any type of filtering medium to the equation you will almost completely eliminate the positive pressure at any speed. Completely optimized, THE BEST air scoop design(pro stock style) is worth about 28 horsepower h.p. over none at all (at speeds over 160mph). You are correct about one thing though and that is the lack of common sense is truly amazing. -Bob

Originally Posted by bremillard

The vararam is not completely worthless. It is expensive and hard to install and offers very little, if any, performance advantage over a tie wrapped K&N type filter. There is no measurable ram effect. The only possible benefit it may have is allowing cooler air into the engine. Put a thermometer where the stock intake ingests air and put another one where the Vararam ingests it's air. There will not be much difference while driving because G.M. has already arranged their unit to collect air that is cooler than where, say, an old muscle car might have(in the area of the carb/throttle body). My biggest problem with Vararam is the outlandish claim it makes. (This product is not alone in that area) I sold my Vararam because A. the guy running the dyno (a very knowledgable car person) varified what I already had suspected-that it was no better than what I had previously. And B. I had a buyer waiting for it and I was afraid he would buy a new one if I didn't act immediately. Now, I am like the other poster who bowed out of this thread because there is no winning this argument. If you like it great. I certainly have and like a lot of things that other people might find foolish. -Bob

Originally Posted by Sandra Bigwoode

Originally Posted by EB20003

I could run from here to eternity with my last year's mods and never see 12.20. But if I see 12.2x with the Vararam or even 12.3x then I will certainly be a believer.

Originally Posted by bremillard

I was one of the fools that purchased a new 2001 Z06. When the 2002's came out with 20 more h.p. I was more than a little upset. I was determined to add enough bolt-on parts to my 2001 to match the new 2002's power. I carefully documented my gains as I went. I used a well known chassis dyno-tuner in Socal on 6 different occasions to record gains/losses. I baselined my car with no mods. 327 rwhp. On the same day I tie-wrapped an Accel cool blue filter to the stock setup with removed top. Result-331 rwhp.(+4). The next time in I had added a smooth bridge and power duct.(Slightly warmer day) Result 333 rwhp(+2). Next came the Borla Stinger exhaust(GREAT SOUND but only 3 additional h.p.). About this time I located a used vararam at the Pomona swap meet. Fought with installation (no instructions). Result-no significant change over the tie wrapped cool blue. I removed this overrated p.o.sh. and sold it to another sucker. Finally, I hollowed out the "pup" cat converters and gained 2 h.p. My total gain was 11 rear wheel horsepower. The car stone stock ran 12:78 at 109 mph best at The Strip in Vegas. After all the mods(no vararam) ran 12:69 at 110.5 mph. I gave up with the 2001 and bought a 2002. The first pass I made with only a cool blue air cleaner-stock top was 12:62 at 112.3 mph. I am no longer a big believer in aftermarket bolt-ons and I really believe that to significantly improve performance you need nitrous or some other kind of forced air induction-which of course will overpower the clutch and drive train and necessitate an expensive upgrade of those parts as well. The Z06 is a great combination as delivered. If I need to go faster I get into my racecar. I have, since my last track visit, installed a Borla Stinger on the 2002-great sound! -Bob

Originally Posted by I brake for nothing

I cant beleive you traded your 01 for an 02 for 20 hp , drop in a cam and score a free 02 up H pipe . . . thats got to be the most expensive 20 HP ever

Originally Posted by Sandra Bigwoode

Originally Posted by I brake for nothing

I cant beleive you traded your 01 for an 02 for 20 hp , drop in a cam and score a free 02 up H pipe . . . thats got to be the most expensive 20 HP ever

Originally Posted by bremillard

I didn't like the color of the 01(quicksilver) and got the brand new 02 for 43k plus $900.00 shipping from a dealer in Michigan(0% 60 month interest). I paid sticker price for the 01. The new car payments were $250.00 less than the old ones. -Bob

Originally Posted by 90 droptop

Dude, you such a noob, and way behind. Been there done that. I've scanned my cars, tapped into the IAT, (do you know what that is). Temps are ambient with VARARAM, they are not with the stock setup or Blackwing. You state earlier you have soooo much experiance, but you go by the "the guy running the dyno (a very knowledgable car person) varified what I already had suspected-that it was no better than what I had previously".

Cold fresh air is the secret to h.p., and VARARAM delivers. Unless you have run your car at the track with and without, your opinions mean squat. Now go back to your "stock, superstock, supergas and super comp forums." You're waaaaaay toooooo smart for us over hear.

Originally Posted by bremillard

As I said, there is no winning this argument. You seem very bitter to anyone who may hold a different opinion than your's. I not only drove those race cars but I built them-motors, chassis, head porting, the whole deal(I get more out of this than I do actual racing). I know how much it takes to extract 40 horsepower from a well thought out combination. If it were only as easy as some companies make it seem. There is really no reason to resort to name calling. Experiences have led us down different paths to different results. I expressed mine you have expressed your's. Isn't there be room for all of us? This time, over and out! -Bob

Originally Posted by 90 droptop

Not bitter, just clearing out the advice people with no experiance hand out on this board, that's all. Your resume sounds nice, but your posts and actions give you away.

Originally Posted by bremillard

As I said, there is no winning this argument. You seem very bitter to anyone who may hold a different opinion than your's. I not only drove those race cars but I built them-motors, chassis, head porting, the whole deal(I get more out of this than I do actual racing). I know how much it takes to extract 40 horsepower from a well thought out combination. If it were only as easy as some companies make it seem. There is really no reason to resort to name calling. Experiences have led us down different paths to different results. I expressed mine you have expressed your's. Isn't there be room for all of us? This time, over and out! -Bob

Originally Posted by EB20003

So if you had a piece of red hot metal, it would cool just as quickly if you stood in place holding it with a pair of channel lock pliers as it would if you attached it to the hood of your car and drove down the road at 80-90 mph?

Secondly, the air under the hood of your car is warmer than the air hitting the front of it.

If you had to keep your lunch warm, and had but 2 choices, where would you put it, under your hood next to the Blackwing or tape it to the front of your car?

Originally Posted by Korreck

No kidding. That's not what was said. Aircraft are rated for altitude, not depending on the air density on a certain day. Some of you people get so far off track I can't believe I even respond to a dumb statement like that.

Carry on. I'm outta this one.