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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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Mine and alot of others I have heard seem to tick. I used to run the longer pushrods and it still was ticky.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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cam lobes
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push rod length- length needs to be correct, not longer or shorter.

IMHO the cam lobes are the biggest factor.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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You can quiet them some with the correct lifter preload. If you are running stock lifters, you want to be in the 0.080" - 0.100" range of preload with the stock rockers. You could just pull one rocker and make a measurement, but something like an XER lobe will be noisier.

I think Crane takes a little different approach, they go a little easier on the ramp rates of the cam and pop the valve faster using the rocker (assuming you are using the Crane rockers). It does make for a quieter setup though.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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Depending on the design of the cam lobe you may not be able to quiet down completely. The agressive ramp of the closing of the valve lends itself to "ticking".
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Don't have the answer but I feel better knowing now that i"m NOT the only one hearing it.

Good post
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small block chevy engines almost always tick, untill properly oiled though out the engine.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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for the power, looks, and handling, its something i deal with
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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My 346 w/ a 230-236 XE-R 112 cam sounded like a sewing machine. I'm running a MUCH larger cam in my 402 but use Cadillac Racing lifters and Trend .110 pushrods and it's not much noisier than stock.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Mine is as quiet as stock. Love it. The sewing machine sound would drive me crazy. There are some valve train improvements like identified by Vettenuts that will really help.
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I was told that my dual springs is what is making alot of noise in mine.
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I've got at least a thousand miles on the new ECS cam, no tick/sewing machine sound.
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Just wondering, you guys that say yours is quiet, are you running a single or dual spring?
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mvvette97
Just wondering, you guys that say yours is quiet, are you running a single or dual spring?
I haven't noticed any noise in mine and I believe it is dual spring.
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I have an '01 Z06, my father has an '04 Z06, and my mother a '99 MN6 vert... they all have a sewing machine like noise to some extent. It's the nature of the beast.

I'll be installing a G5-X2 cam in mine w/ comp 921's and I fully expect more valvetrain noise... it's not a problem to me.
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Originally Posted by mvvette97
Just wondering, you guys that say yours is quiet, are you running a single or dual spring?
No tickee here with Comp Cam singles.
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G5X4 cam (24x/24x XE-R lobes on a 111 lsa), PRC dual springs, 7.425" pushrods.

Stock heads, lifters, rockers, etc. (for a limited time ).

Engine is very quiet, no ticking. Inside the car with radio off, if you focus really hard, you can detect a faint "sewing machine" sound...but it certainly isn't obvious or noticible.

I was actually surprised at how quiet it was when I first drove it after the cam swap.



Of course I can never be content, so the car is in the process of being torn down again to flycut the pistons, and put on some stage 2 TEA 5.3 heads, GMPP "caddy" lifters, ARP studs, .040" Cometics, and probably some adjustable roller rockers.


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I tick mostly at 1700 RPM. Below and above I don't hear it much at all.
Comp Cam and AFR Heads...........


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well mine had a small tick after I got the cam in with the 918 springs but since I put the duals it got alot louder
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
My 346 w/ a 230-236 XE-R 112 cam sounded like a sewing machine. I'm running a MUCH larger cam in my 402 but use Cadillac Racing lifters and Trend .110 pushrods and it's not much noisier than stock.
Mine sounds like a sewing machine. And I have a baby cam, 918's with stock lifters.

I'd like to know more about these Cady racing lifters.
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Its not the springs. I have run both duals and now PSI beehives, no noise from either. What is the lobe of your Comp Cam?
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