Cam Damage---need Advice Asap
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2005
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From: St. Louis Missouri
This cam could be repaired with some slight less lift on that damaged lobe Without even welding, just a slight grind to clean the damage
but
Call comp cams....
This might be salvageable, or they might help you out and give you a new one since they know about these batches..
It wouldnt hurt to give it a try..
but
Call comp cams....
This might be salvageable, or they might help you out and give you a new one since they know about these batches..
It wouldnt hurt to give it a try..
I would say just bite the bullet and buy new!
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Racer
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From: yorktown virginia
Well he has ignored my PM's and phone calls since last thursday... Even though I gave him till tomorrow (friday the 14th) to return my money (he said he didnt get paid till this week) do you guys think its time i start bringing this public over on ls1 tech and their texas chapter page as well? he HAS logged into ls1tech (ive been watching his last activity updates everytime i log in) Ive even PMed him while he was online several times. He hasnt gotten on AIM, or YAHOO or Called me back ( i think he's screening my calls) I left a voicemail on his mothers cell phone (the number he gave me) and ive already verified the address and phone numbers he gave me were valid. so what do you guys think?
Team Owner
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From: NJ
Sounds like the only way you will get satisfaction is to guilt him into it.
Make a well thought out post with all the facts and pictures, dont be to aggressive but state your case and his lack of action.
Make a well thought out post with all the facts and pictures, dont be to aggressive but state your case and his lack of action.
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Racer
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From: yorktown virginia
Melting Slicks
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I've yet to use ls1tech to buy anything.
I've gotten many good deals on this forum. Im young at 22 but i just am weary of the people over on ls1tech for some reason
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I've gotten many good deals on this forum. Im young at 22 but i just am weary of the people over on ls1tech for some reason
corvette forum rocks totally
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As with any classified ad, there are good and bad deals out there. The medium it's posted in doesn't much matter.
At least LS1tech has a trader rating system. That would be a very welcome addition to this site.
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Racer
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From: yorktown virginia
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Racer
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From: yorktown virginia
He is a younger guy (20) so we have a re-payment schedule worked out where he gives me no-less than $100 dollars tomorrow, the 31st and the 15th of April. I am doing my best to be understanding of his financial constraints. I like to think it is good karma. I could have been a real you know what about it and demanded all my money back at once and told him that his finances are none of my concern.
Melting Slicks
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From: sterling ct
this is why you dont buy a used cam....to save 100 bucks for the hearbeat of an engine???????????? i dont get it....a cam is typically the lowest cost item in a car- compared to rockers, intake, heads.....why risk it....buy new
Drifting
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From: New Hartford IA
I agree with the others get your money back, but cams can be reground and turn out just fine. No loss of lift or anything. The base circle has to be smaller, but as long as it's not removing to much heat treat it will work fine.
Without a hardness test you won't know if it was poor heat treat or something else going on. Possibly bad lifters, light on the springs, agressive lobes, oil contamination, etc, etc. I had my old comp cam reground for a friend and went from a 232 236 .575" .578" XE lobe to a 228 232 .588" .595" XER lobe. There are limits to what thay can change (Comp wouldn't move the LSA or ICL around), but it worked out well in the end. Cam looked like new when I got it back from Comp. Lifters looked good when the heads were pulled for a swap after 5K of abuse.
Don't get me wrong you should get your money back, but just pointing out to the others that a regrind can work out well.
Without a hardness test you won't know if it was poor heat treat or something else going on. Possibly bad lifters, light on the springs, agressive lobes, oil contamination, etc, etc. I had my old comp cam reground for a friend and went from a 232 236 .575" .578" XE lobe to a 228 232 .588" .595" XER lobe. There are limits to what thay can change (Comp wouldn't move the LSA or ICL around), but it worked out well in the end. Cam looked like new when I got it back from Comp. Lifters looked good when the heads were pulled for a swap after 5K of abuse.
Don't get me wrong you should get your money back, but just pointing out to the others that a regrind can work out well.
Melting Slicks
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From: Niagara Falls NY
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
.Some newbie might put a used cam in like this and not even ask any knowledgeable person about the damage.$3000 later,after a rebuild, the guy is counting his change for a year.Anyone who brings a used cam to my shop will be running to catch it as I throw it out the door.Ya guys really need to blame the seller here, and not the buyer.
There is no problem in re-using a cam, if it's not damaged. This one clearly IS damaged, and that isn't the buyer's fault.
Based on the pics, this localized pitting is the likely result of inadequate heat treating, and anyone who reads over at LS1Tech knows this isn't all that rare of occurance. Both Comp and Cam Motion/Futral have had their fair share of "bad batches" of cams.
As for the peace of mind of buying new....you could buy a brand new cam, and pull it out of your car 5k miles later looking just like this.
Or, you could buy a used cam that's already been run for 5k miles, and still looks like new. Given that comparison, I'd be more apt to trust the used one that's proven to work.
There is no problem in re-using a cam, if it's not damaged. This one clearly IS damaged, and that isn't the buyer's fault.
Based on the pics, this localized pitting is the likely result of inadequate heat treating, and anyone who reads over at LS1Tech knows this isn't all that rare of occurance. Both Comp and Cam Motion/Futral have had their fair share of "bad batches" of cams.
As for the peace of mind of buying new....you could buy a brand new cam, and pull it out of your car 5k miles later looking just like this.
Or, you could buy a used cam that's already been run for 5k miles, and still looks like new. Given that comparison, I'd be more apt to trust the used one that's proven to work.