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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cybermind
Your only reliable option is to install a CLB. There is no permanent GM dealer recall or fix for this problem that truly works.

Din't work for me. I sent my computer out to be reprogrammed. And I still get the pull key message.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
Be glad you took the time to double check your work. When the K Harness failed ( It is certain to!!!) you would have been hit with the fuel shutoff.
Ok so I hooked it all up and the AC isn't working.
33 deg F outside, went to go to automatic control (in defrost settings), and the AC button blinks.

Pulled the cover under the steering wheel thinking it is probably a loose connection for the interior temp sensor (just by the key location), all is tight.
Pulled connection at interior temp sensor and re-installed, still no ac (blinking light).
Thinking I need to check the DIC for codes, maybe I have to reset a code. I am thinking the when I installed the lower cover, I might not have had a good connection for the interior temp sensor, started it up, threw a code now I have to reset it to clear the system.
Does my logic sound good?
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
It might be. Below is the procedure that I copied from Bill Curlee on how to pull and reset codes. I'll look in my shop manual and see if I can find anything about the blinking light. Pull the codes and post them:



READING YOUR Engine Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC)

This procedure should be carried out any time you experience a problem with your C5. Most inexpensive store bought aftermarket code readers will ONLY read power train DTC’s. Reading the DTC’s with the C5 built in code reader will allow you to read ALL the modules in the vehicle.

The Diagnostic Display Mode is entered with the following procedure:
1) Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine.
2) Press the RESET button to turn off any warning messages. (i.e. door open, trunk open ect)
3) Press and hold the OPTIONS button
4) While holding OPTIONS, press FUEL button four times within a 10 -second period.

Initially, the on-board diagnostics go into an Automatic Mode which will cycle through each module and shows diagnostic codes in a pre-set sequence: PCM - TCS - RTD - BCM - IPC - RADIO - HVAC - LDCM - RDCM - SCM - RFA. All codes will be displayed for each module. ( i.e. PCM = 4 codes) If none are present in a given module, you will see No More Codes on the display.

There are two types of diagnostic codes, Current and History designated with a letter suffix, “C” or “H”. A current code indicates a malfunction is present in the module displaying data. A history code indicates a problem existed sometime in the last 40 or 50 ignition cycles. When not accompanied by a current code of the same number, it's potential evidence of a previous problem, now resolved, that was not removed by clearing the codes. More likely it's an indication of an intermittent malfunction.

Intermittent codes are the most challenging of the diagnostics. An intermittent code may have happened once, may have happened more than once but is inconsistent or may be happening on a regular basis but not at the time the codes are displayed. History codes can also be caused by a current malfunction in a system that is not operating at the time codes are displayed. An example is the rear window defogger which doesn't operate until the Body Control Module detects engine rpm. For history codes set by a module that does not operate with the key on and engine off, a special diagnostic tool called a Scan Tester is necessary to properly diagnose the malfunction.

Once the system has displayed all modules, it goes into the manual mode which allows selection of each module using combinations of Driver Information Center buttons. Manual mode can also be entered during the automatic sequence by pressing any button except E/M. Once the display shows Manual Diagnostics, select a module by pressing the OPTIONS button to go forward or the TRIP button to go back. Once a module is selected, a code is displayed, and if more than one are present; press GAGES to go forward or FUEL to go back.
To exit the diagnostic mode at any time, press E/M. If you want to erase codes in a given module, press RESET To reset the codes once in manual mode, press and hold RESET until it displays NO CODES Press OPTIONS to go to the next module. Repeat the steps until you have reset the codes in all the computer modules.
NOTE!! Only reset the codes IF you want to - it is NOT necessary to do this. Clearing a code does not repair a problem. You are simply erasing the evidence of it in the module's memory. If you clear the code/s, and extinguish the Check Engine Light, your emissions status ready will NOT allow you to pass an emissions test until you have completed the required driving cycles. There are a few body module DTC’s that if set will prevent the module from operating properly. Once the DTC is cleared, the module will return to full function. This is not true for power train DTCs.

If you have never read and cleared your codes, there will probably be a lot of old history DTCs. It is recommended that you clear your codes and see if any come back during a driving cycle. Those are the ones that you need to concentrate on diagnosing.

Once you have the codes, the next question is: What to do with the information?
First, consult the factory service manual. Any serious C5 Do-It-Yourself owner should invest in the Corvette Service Manual of the appropriate model year. The Service Manual is really a requirement if you want to understand and work on your C5.

These are some very good C5 Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) explanation web sites!!! They also explain how to read the DTCs

http://www.corvettedoctor.com/Code_Main.html

http://www.corvettedoctor.com/index.html

Go to “technical data base” and then to “Corvette ECM Computer Codes”. Then select your year car. Read the instructions and then scroll down to the "READ MORE" window to view the code definitions.\

Here are some more very good sites:

http://www.gearchatter.com/viewtopic11755.php

http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_cod...d-ii-codes.php

Make sure to include the H or C suffix when you post your DTCs
Solved.

When I installed the lower dash cover, the connection to the interior temp sensor was loose. Checked the codes, sure enough.
BTW what a little b*tch getting the interior temp sensor in while installing the lower dash into the car - tried both ways (after lower dash in place but before any screws installed & option 2 installed in place first then install lower dash, option 2 seems to be the best procedure)......

Interestingly, my HVAC not working after I reset the codes was nothing to do with loose connections at that point or previous codes.

Outside air was running around 35 - 38 deg F.
Checked the owners manual and below 35 - 40 deg F, the AC is programmed not to work.
Took for a test drive, once up to 39 deg F, on came the AC.

Thanks again.

Andy

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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Follow up to removal of K harness and going with CLB from Corvettes of Houston.

Symptoms gone. Haven't had a "pull key wait 10 seconds" message since install.

Good advise guys going with the CLB. I was on the fence on replacing the Sears Platinum battery at first since two years old. Saved $200.

Thanks all for your advice and time.

Andy
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