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1998-2000 ABS/EBCM Failure; Possible Sollution!

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Old Jul 22, 2019 | 10:47 PM
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Well I have a 2000 corvette and for the last couple of weeks I have been getting message service active handling and traction control . Yesterday while drive my corvette I got up to forty miles and stomped my brakes and the message popped up I think it said traction and since then I stopped getting the message . I will update if I get the pop up warnings again . I drove several times today and no message .
Update today drive today twice no warning lights
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Why should GM pay good money to redesign a 12 year old car? No other company would do that so don't think you can jump to some other one. By the way nobody else makes anything to compete with the car you have so good luck finding that company.

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All GM has to do is release the electric diagrams and component lists to an after market company. Some EE can make a nice living off of GM's stupidity.
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by polyforge
All GM has to do is release the electric diagrams and component lists to an after market company. Some EE can make a nice living off of GM's stupidity.
Up until the first accident. It doesn't matter if it is his parts fault or not, he could kiss everything he has goodbye just representing himself in court for the case. This is why nobody has tackled the early one, it is not just relays that go bad on those.
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Old Sep 5, 2024 | 10:56 AM
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Love this, a post from 2015 that Im printing out.. This seems to cover what I need. ( along with a few other I printed, like where to BUY a EBCM is needed.... What a great forum .. thanks to everyone who posts their experience & Tips.

Plus this thread needs to be kept alive. - I just became the new caretaker of a 98' Torch Red Vert w 60K , and I have pulled codes several times ( I have to because the codes flash so quickly, I cant write them fast enough) , and this last drive the ABS and Traction Control light came on... and STAYED ON .... I am not a mechanic, nor want to be, but fully ready to figure out this problem, troubleshoot what I can ? or find a solution from the forum....

Geez and I thought all I needed were NEW RIMS and NEW SEATS, now this.... praying I can clear it and it wont come back....
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Old Sep 5, 2024 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FLrealty
Question. Two vettes for sale identical. One the abs works as it should, the other it doesn't. Which one will you or any other person buy everything else being equal?

I am curious too that since the bankruptcy relieves gm of past liabilities, why would they be entitled to any type of patent rights or intellectual property rights as well for that same time period?

Seems any company should be able to reverse engineer the module as I would think gm can't have it both ways.
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Old Sep 5, 2024 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by britanietx
98' Torch Red Vert w 60K , and I have pulled codes several times ( I have to because the codes flash so quickly, I cant write them fast enough) , and this last drive the ABS and Traction Control light came on... and STAYED ON .... I am not a mechanic, nor want to be, but fully ready to figure out this problem, troubleshoot what I can ?
Welcome to the forum Britanie.
Start your phone recording video, then perform the code process and record the whole sequence. Then you can pause and write down at your leisure.
There has been some recent success repairing the early EBCM. If I were you I would visit https://www.absfixer.com/catalog/pro...products_id/62 and maybe call or email them and discuss the possibility.
Best of luck.
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Old Sep 5, 2024 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by britanietx
Love this, a post from 2015 that Im printing out.. This seems to cover what I need. ( along with a few other I printed, like where to BUY a EBCM is needed.... What a great forum .. thanks to everyone who posts their experience & Tips.

Plus this thread needs to be kept alive. - I just became the new caretaker of a 98' Torch Red Vert w 60K , and I have pulled codes several times ( I have to because the codes flash so quickly, I cant write them fast enough) , and this last drive the ABS and Traction Control light came on... and STAYED ON .... I am not a mechanic, nor want to be, but fully ready to figure out this problem, troubleshoot what I can ? or find a solution from the forum....

Geez and I thought all I needed were NEW RIMS and NEW SEATS, now this.... praying I can clear it and it wont come back....
Use Manual Diagnostics mode to take as much time as you need to review the codes from the built-in code reader.

To get into Manual Diagnostics mode, either press any key (except [5] E/M) when the codes are being automatically displayed or just wait for the automatic code display to finish.

When you're in Manual Diagnostics mode, you can view the codes at your leisure using the following DIC keys:

[1] FUEL = Previous Code
[2] GAGES = Next Code
[3] TRIP = Previous Module
[4] OPTIONS = Next Module
[5] E/M = Exit code reader

HTH
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Old Sep 6, 2024 | 09:38 AM
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It seams this Post never dies. The EBCM was made by Bosh, it is based on the 5.3 design they made in the mid 90's. GM contracted with them for the part and stocked them and enough parts for the 10yr parts requirement. I tried Last year to find out other cars that might have used that controller and could not find one nor did any of the other forum members find any. I we had found a few million users of that controller, there was an aftermarket association that was willing to request Bosh to reintroduce them on a one time build. Bosh will not let the schematics of the epoxy enclosed part of the EBCM to another company because of corporate and liability issues. If someone has contacts with the Japanese company that originally developed the system it might be a start of making an aftermarket replacement.
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Originally Posted by Redeasysport
I posted this above and no one has called and checked it out $99 Our Corvette is a 5.3 Bosch unit

http://www.cheapabs.com/vrother.html

Bosch ABS modules are also found on many other vehicles besides those listed on our website. If your car has a module that looks like any of the ones below, please contact us to see if it can be repaired. We service all integral Bosch ABS control modules (modules that are directly attached to the ABS pump).

Other vehicles that use Bosch 5.3, 5.4, or 5.7 control modules:

Daewoo Leganza (module number 0 273 004 249)
Mitsubishi Diamante and Eclipse
Toyota Camry
Chevrolet Camaro and Corvette
Pontiac Firebird
Ford Contour
Mazda 626 and MPV
Mercury Cougar, Mystique, and Villager
Nissan Altima, Frontier, Quest, and Sentra
Vauxhall / Opel Omega
Alfa Romeo 156 (P/N 71716867)
Renault
Peugeot
Citroen


I created Cheap-ABS to offer a solution I found to the annoying ABS problem that plagues B5 model Audi and Volkswagen cars. As an avid Audi enthusiast and electrical engineer, when I experienced the 'classic' ABS failure in my Audi, I decided to remove the ABS electronics and troubleshoot it to find the point of failure. I was able to identify where the module was failing and develop a method of repairing it. Due to the extremely intricate nature of the ABS electronics, it's a little more complicated that a simple solder job, but with the right tools and materials, I was able to find a way to reliably fix the problem and upgrade the module. Over the past few years, I have continued to improve and hone my repair methods, and I am focused on continuing to deliver the highest quality possible.

The problem with these modules is due to an engineering defect. Bond wires are ultrasonically joined to the substrate inside the module. In a normal application, this would not be an issue. But due to the module's placement in the engine compartment, one of the most hostile environments for electronics (full of heat, vibrations, and electrical noise), these ultrasonic connections break and fail. They cannot be simply soldered back together. My fix completely replaces these ultrasonic bond connections so that the module will not fail again in this manner.

Many people experience a 'worsening' of symptoms. At first, they notice the ABS light come on, then go back off. Eventually it gets worse and stays on all the time. What's happening it that the connection has broken but is still making physical contact (the wires have split, but the split ends are still touching sometimes). Eventually the wire will be pushed aside and won't contact at all. If you're experiencing intermittent symptoms, then by waiting until later to fix it, you run the risk of not having ABS available when you need it.

I've repaired many of the modules for people in my community, and because I'm frustrated that the car manufacturers haven't offered a recall to fix this, I have decided to fix anyone's module who is having the same problem. Paying $1500 for the dealer to fix this is just a rip-off. So are the $600 rebuild kits. And so are the rebuilders charging up to 4 times what I do. While I originally started this as a service to the VW Passat and Audi A4/S4/A6/A8 community, I realize that this module is found in many other cars, including Saabs, and will be glad to repair ABS modules for anyone with a Bosch ABS system.

I am not a large shop like other firms. I keep this a small, 2-person operation and mainly do this as a service to the automotive enthusiast community. The advantage of using Cheap-ABS is that you will be able to work with the person servicing your module. There are no hired technicians, no 800 numbers, no warranty RMA forms, etc. If you have a problem or a question, just contact me directly and I will help you to the best of my abilities.
this is an old tread, but I found a 2000…do you still repair these modules if they go bad?

EDIT: Nevermind, missed your website at the top and I see you are still in business.

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