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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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I know I'm STUUUUUUUPID.

I just said for now I'm going w/ bill because I have respected him since day one.

You may be right that >2001 there is no difference.

But until I've seen an intake I know is off a 2001 LS1 engine and an intake off a 2001 LS6 engine, I'm going w bill.

I know right now I'm assuming both the pics bill posted were off a 2001 (because my question is 2001 specific). They look different to me.

Maybe the pics he posted are not both off a 2001. Maybe the LS1 intake pic he posted was off a pre-2001. And the LS6 intake pic he posted was off a 2001 and later which may be all the friggin same on an LS1 engine and an LS6 engine.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

My original reason for posting this question on this goofy thread is to know when I pull my intake off my 2001 to replace my oil pressure switch, can I get a better intake --- without spending $1000.

I've had my vette for about 4 months now. I know i don't know anything and maybe assuming too much. I'm not a mechanic, just a redneck with an awesome car. Maybe I should get a mustang... NOT...

Stupid signing off.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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Well,,, I DO NOT know everything. What I do know I try to research well and be factual when I post stuff.

I do know this. If GM installed a 2001-2004 LS6 Style manifold on an LS1 engine,,, You will have BLOCK OFF Caps on the rear cylinder head steam vent bleed ports.

IF,, you have a 97-2000 LS1 Manifold, the rear cylinder head steam vent ports will have a small metal pipe that connect the two rear steam vent ports and a single metal pipe that runs from the rear vent pipe UNDER the manifold to the front steam bleed port cross over tube. The metal pipe that connects the two that runs under the manifold, will NOT fit properly under an LS6 style 2001-2004 intake manifold without either: 1. modifying the bottom of the LS6 style intake manifold ribbing OR 2. Removing the LS1 style vent piping and installing the 2001-2004 front cross over vent pipe and rear vent plugs.


When I did my heads and cam install, I replaced the rear block off plugs on my 02 ZO6 heads with a 2001-2004 front crossover pipe and connected the two with a rubber hose that runs down the drivers side of the engine next to the fuel rail.

Heres a picture of the head rear steam bleed port cross over pipe conversion:






It will give you an idea how big the small metal piping that runs under the manifold is. Sorry.. I do not have any pictures of a 97-2000 style steam vent crossover pipe set up..

You can see ONE of the 2001-2004 block off plugs on the rear of the drivers head on this 2001 Coupe engine;



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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
Well,,, I DO NOT know everything. What I do know I try to research well and be factual when I post stuff.

I do know this. If GM installed a 2001-2004 LS6 Style manifold on an LS1 engine,,, You will have BLOCK OFF Caps on the rear cylinder head steam vent bleed ports.

IF,, you have a 97-2000 LS1 Manifold, the rear cylinder head steam vent ports will have a small metal pipe that connect the two rear steam vent ports and a single metal pipe that runs from the rear vent pipe UNDER the manifold to the front steam bleed port cross over tube. The metal pipe that connects the two that runs under the manifold, will NOT fit properly under an LS6 style 2001-2004 intake manifold without either: 1. modifying the bottom of the LS6 style intake manifold ribbing OR 2. Removing the LS1 style vent piping and installing the 2001-2004 front cross over vent pipe and rear vent plugs.


When I did my heads and cam install, I replaced the rear block off plugs on my 02 ZO6 heads with a 2001-2004 front crossover pipe and connected the two with a rubber hose that runs down the drivers side of the engine next to the fuel rail.

Heres a picture of the head rear steam bleed port cross over pipe conversion:






It will give you an idea how big the small metal piping that runs under the manifold is. Sorry.. I do not have any pictures of a 97-2000 style ..

You can see ONE of the 2001-2004 block off plugs on the rear of the drivers head on this 2001 Coupe engine;



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I have a stock 99. In the first photo it shows the steam vent crossover pipe set up. I plan to go to the ZO6 intake. I have it already. A couple of questions if I may.

1) what do you do with the large black hose hooked to the steam cross over in the first photo? Is that the hose you ran down along the fuel rail?
2) Since I've not done this yet is it not possible to use the steam crossover from my 99 in the front? Or do I need to start looking for a 2001-2004 front steam pipe?
3) Does my 99 have the steam block offs at the front of the engine?
again I haven't started this so I don't know what is under there.
Thanks!
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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The rubber hose that I added connects to the FRONT vent pipe rubber hose that goes to the radiator with a metal T fitting.

IF,, your going to install a 2001-2004 intake manifold,, you have Three options:

1, Keep what you have and modify the BOTTOM of the new manifold. That consists of removing the small ribs on the bottom of the new intake manifold where the vent pipe runs under the manifold. That seems to work very well.

2. Purchase the rear block off plugs and install them in the rear vent holes and install a 2001-2004 vent pipe and install it up front. The pipe on the rear steam vent holes on my 02 is actually a 2001-2004 assy FRONT pipe.

3. Purchase TWO 2001 - 2004 front vent tubes and do what I did to use the front and rear vents.

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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic'sVette


I know I'm STUUUUUUUPID.
You must be, if you completely dismissed what Lucky tried to explain. He is one of the more well informed members on this forum.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by baxsom
the next step up is to drop around a grand for a FAST intake and bigger throttle body to gain about 15 hp.
And lose low end torque what a deal!!
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic'sVette
BUT.... According to Mr. Bill Curlee --above post & pics-- they are not the same intake. Seems to be come conflicting stories here. So, for now I will take Mr. Curlee's because I knew after my first ever 30 minutes on corvetteforum.com that Mr C is the Corvette God. ( I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy.... ) Thanks, Mr. C for your post. I have learned much from the info you have posted on this site.

So from what I gather, since I have the 2001, I do have the LS1 intake. I know now that when I replace my oil pressure switch and I put my intake back on, it is the best I can do without spending a grand for another intake (which was my original reason for this post).


Thanks all.
You have an LS1 engine that is factory equipped with an LS6 intake, you should accept this as being true...and then enjoy
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by had2have-it
You have an LS1 engine that is factory equipped with an LS6 intake, you should accept this as being true...and then enjoy
OK. Thanks. My assumption was wrong when considering the pics posted by Bill showing difference between the intakes. Stupid me... And I will enjoy.

Originally Posted by 1999_TRC
Why do you call it a "LS6 style" intake? .
This was part of my confusion, too.


Originally Posted by lucky131969
Well, this is where I step away from this goofy thread.
If we cant have a little fun on cf, then maybe the webmaster should remove the goofy smilies. Then cf would be about as exciting as an insurance web site.

Originally Posted by 1999_TRC
You must be, if you completely dismissed what Lucky tried to explain. He is one of the more well informed members on this forum.
I hope you choke on your grey poupon....
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vic'sVette
I hope you choke on your grey poupon....
He was 100% serious. Anytime someone here has a really nasty issue and nobody has an answer for you...lucky is probably the most dependable person with sound advice. The guy deserves respect.

Last edited by Vicarious.; Nov 14, 2011 at 03:26 PM.
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironembraced
He was 100% serious. Anytime someone here has a really nasty issue and nobody has an answer for you....lucky is probably the only one left that has advice. The guy deserves respect.
I meant no disrespect to lucky. That comment was directed to 1999_trc who was quoting me for calling myself stuuuuuuupid. He didn't have to agree so quickly...

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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 03:42 PM
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Hello,I can make this quick and simple and doesn't matter which manifold you have.
If your replacing the oil sender I can save you many hours. Remove your wiper arms and cowl screen,now eye ball the oil sender and note its location compaired to the cowl above it.Take a hole saw a bit larger than the oil sender socket and drill a hole threw the fiberglass cowl directly above the oil sender unit, using a long pick pull off the wire connection on the sender, then using compressed air blow off any debris around the sender.I used a wooble extention and attached the sender socket, now put it threw the cowl and remove the faulty oil sensor/sender, place the new sender onto the socket,it will probubly fall off when trying to install the sender ,so take some masking tape and put some on the sender until the sender fits snug in the socket.
CAREFULLY start the sender unit into the block by HAND and make sure not to CROSS TREAD it,next try using mechanical fingers to place the wire connecter on top of the sender and using a screw driver push down and snap the connecter back on.
Next use some duct tape on the drilled out piece of fiberglass on the cowl and from under the cowl tape it on,now above that use some epoxy the fill in the gap,when dry give a quick black paint job.
I have done this method several times and it takes any where from 45 minutes to 2 hours depending on the person and tools being used.
I hope I helped you out. If you have any questions email me T51corvette@live.com
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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Thanks tonyr. Since I do have the best and only stock intake Chevy offered in 2001 (whew...) this is sure an option. I do not plan on spending the money for an aftermarket intake at this time.

BTW, welcome to the forum.
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Thanks Vic
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Can we retitle this thread to "CF game of pictionary"?

The hint: The best and only intake GM offered in 2001

Do you mean the LS6 intake??

The suspense and confusion that insues in this thread is comical.
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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"Eyeball" and "drill a hole threw the fiberglass"

Now there is some sound advice there. LOL
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There is absolutly no structional importance to this hole,Mr Senior member
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There is absolutly no structional importance to this hole,Mr Senior member
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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Confused... I'm not confused. I have a car, with a bad oil switch, and it has an intake that is in the way.

I'm not sure that car in my garage is a Corvette or not any more. I better go & check to make sure.

I knew what you meant, tonyr. Some of these Sr. members & tech contributors are just hen pecked at home and have to take it out on someone.
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Originally Posted by Vic'sVette
Some of these Sr. members & tech contributors are just hen pecked at home and have to take it out on someone.
.......and yet you just keep going with the comments. Bill is a patient man, so I'm sure he will keep helping you, but you are certainly narrowing down the list of those that will.
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Old Nov 14, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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Have some more grey poupon.
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