Halltech Killer Bee Intake Fitment
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Appreciate you making this post. I have the same issue with fitment on my Halltech KB2 intake. I thought I was the only one..
I ended up putting a Blackwing filter in for the time being with my build with the OE air bridge. I don't know that I'm really being held back much with the Blackwing setup, but I'd like to explore options of a better fitting air bridge as my OE unit has a slightly loose fit between the bellows and the plastic bridge portion.
Anyway. I just wanted to say thanks for sharing.
I ended up putting a Blackwing filter in for the time being with my build with the OE air bridge. I don't know that I'm really being held back much with the Blackwing setup, but I'd like to explore options of a better fitting air bridge as my OE unit has a slightly loose fit between the bellows and the plastic bridge portion.
Anyway. I just wanted to say thanks for sharing.
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You youngsters better wake up to hot rodding. Do not expect after market parts to fit. Hot rodding you cut,trim,grind
and alter to make a custom fit. Dont complain about the price . You want a custom car, pay the price.
You are not applying decals. Many should just stay stock.
and alter to make a custom fit. Dont complain about the price . You want a custom car, pay the price.
You are not applying decals. Many should just stay stock.
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You youngsters better wake up to hot rodding. Do not expect after market parts to fit. Hot rodding you cut,trim,grind
and alter to make a custom fit. Dont complain about the price . You want a custom car, pay the price.
You are not applying decals. Many should just stay stock.
and alter to make a custom fit. Dont complain about the price . You want a custom car, pay the price.
You are not applying decals. Many should just stay stock.
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Just to add, I changed from the stock 2012 C6 intake with Zr1 air filter (which was more free flowing than the standard C6 air filter) to a Halltech 108 Killer Bee and noticed zero change in KPA at redline and zero change in MPH in the quarter at the ~460rwhp level on a C6 LS3 GS. Intake air temps seemed slightly better if anything with the stock C6 intake. It's a great solution for the C5. I'm sure the Halltech would have gained some above 550 wheel.
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Mine is the conversion tube, I just don't use the card style MAF. Speed Density for the win.
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You youngsters better wake up to hot rodding. Do not expect after market parts to fit. Hot rodding you cut,trim,grind
and alter to make a custom fit. Dont complain about the price . You want a custom car, pay the price.
You are not applying decals. Many should just stay stock.
and alter to make a custom fit. Dont complain about the price . You want a custom car, pay the price.
You are not applying decals. Many should just stay stock.
Just to add, I changed from the stock 2012 C6 intake with Zr1 air filter (which was more free flowing than the standard C6 air filter) to a Halltech 108 Killer Bee and noticed zero change in KPA at redline and zero change in MPH in the quarter at the ~460rwhp level on a C6 LS3 GS. Intake air temps seemed slightly better if anything with the stock C6 intake. It's a great solution for the C5. I'm sure the Halltech would have gained some above 550 wheel.
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i agree with you to a certain degree. If a company makes a part to fit the car, it should actually fit the car. Hot rodding is definitely making things fit that were maybe not intended. There is a difference here. Imagine buying a driver seat for c5 and finding out you have to cut the side bolster off to close the driver door. Still hot rodding??
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I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall
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I will personally get to the bottom of this issue. I need a C5 to and get our current KB2 package installed to find out what is happening. We are using a fairly new company that makes our roto-mold intakes; they also do the packaging.
I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall
I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall
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If you have CAD models then you can create a fixture/jig to be used to spot check form/fit of the tubes during production.
Two datums being inlet hole and outlet hole. Limit features for hood and radiator clearance.
Two datums being inlet hole and outlet hole. Limit features for hood and radiator clearance.
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I will personally get to the bottom of this issue. I need a C5 to and get our current KB2 package installed to find out what is happening. We are using a fairly new company that makes our roto-mold intakes; they also do the packaging.
I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall
I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall
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St. Jude Donor '09
That is not the way we intended this product to fit. Our CEO has access to a C5 and will report back on the fitment issue. Part of the price is the inclusion of the Card style MAF sensor.
Please stand by and relax until we figure this out. We have sold hundreds of these systems over the past 20 years, with no complaints about fitment. I suspect there is an issue with the connector hose, but whatever it turns out to be, we can make it right.
Jim
Please stand by and relax until we figure this out. We have sold hundreds of these systems over the past 20 years, with no complaints about fitment. I suspect there is an issue with the connector hose, but whatever it turns out to be, we can make it right.
Jim
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St. Jude Donor '09
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I will personally get to the bottom of this issue. I need a C5 to and get our current KB2 package installed to find out what is happening. We are using a fairly new company that makes our roto-mold intakes; they also do the packaging.
I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall
I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall
Sounds like if the manufacturing company changed it might be something in their process. So maybe only newer ones are causing issues?
I installed mine about 2 years ago now. Basically the tube was too long and the filter was shoved into the front crash beam above the radiator shroud. Almost like the bend in the tube was not enough or the tube was too long. I also had the gap between the stock radiator and the tube like the poster of this thread showed. I now have a TPIS modified LS6 intake with the 90mm inlet and a vent in the hood right above where it was rubbing, but it still hits the bottom of the hood in one spot. Let me go through my photos and see if I have any pictures of the original fitment issues.
Edit:
The only pictures I could find were after the 90mm conversion on the stock intake. The throttle body was in the same spot front to back, but the 90mm opening was angled up a little more compared to the stock 75mm throttle body was more straight. You can see in the pictures though that the tube is too long. The hump in the middle of the tube extends beyond the top of the radiator and you can see the rub marks on the hood and tube (I switched to a silver hood I got cheap when I cut the hole for the hood vent). Hopefully this helps.
Last edited by Kubs; Jan 29, 2024 at 08:43 AM.
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Jim,
Sounds like if the manufacturing company changed it might be something in their process. So maybe only newer ones are causing issues?
I installed mine about 2 years ago now. Basically the tube was too long and the filter was shoved into the front crash beam above the radiator shroud. Almost like the bend in the tube was not enough or the tube was too long. I also had the gap between the stock radiator and the tube like the poster of this thread showed. I now have a TPIS modified LS6 intake with the 90mm inlet and a vent in the hood right above where it was rubbing, but it still hits the bottom of the hood in one spot. Let me go through my photos and see if I have any pictures of the original fitment issues.
Edit:
The only pictures I could find were after the 90mm conversion on the stock intake. The throttle body was in the same spot front to back, but the 90mm opening was angled up a little more compared to the stock 75mm throttle body was more straight. You can see in the pictures though that the tube is too long. The hump in the middle of the tube extends beyond the top of the radiator and you can see the rub marks on the hood and tube (I switched to a silver hood I got cheap when I cut the hole for the hood vent). Hopefully this helps.
Sounds like if the manufacturing company changed it might be something in their process. So maybe only newer ones are causing issues?
I installed mine about 2 years ago now. Basically the tube was too long and the filter was shoved into the front crash beam above the radiator shroud. Almost like the bend in the tube was not enough or the tube was too long. I also had the gap between the stock radiator and the tube like the poster of this thread showed. I now have a TPIS modified LS6 intake with the 90mm inlet and a vent in the hood right above where it was rubbing, but it still hits the bottom of the hood in one spot. Let me go through my photos and see if I have any pictures of the original fitment issues.
Edit:
The only pictures I could find were after the 90mm conversion on the stock intake. The throttle body was in the same spot front to back, but the 90mm opening was angled up a little more compared to the stock 75mm throttle body was more straight. You can see in the pictures though that the tube is too long. The hump in the middle of the tube extends beyond the top of the radiator and you can see the rub marks on the hood and tube (I switched to a silver hood I got cheap when I cut the hole for the hood vent). Hopefully this helps.
I think you're dead on with what you're saying. Although I don't have experience using this intake with anything other than OEM Intake/TB I have to agree with the pictures you're showing and the results.
The same goes with Schmuck, he has no fitment issues but it's obvious that his car doesn't have the OEM LS6 Intake and also assuming TB but could be wrong.
I'm not sure what's going on with RoadPilot but I guess my RainX wiper blades is hot rodding? Kind of a joke to say but to each their own. Also I never "complained" about the price... I obviously knew what it cost when I bought it. Your input has 0 contribution to resolving a problem that fellow Corvette enthusiast/business owners are having.
AGAIN. This thread was never about bashing Halltech or anyone that works there. I simply started to ask if anyone has had any issues with the fitment, filter, coupler or all of them together.
Back to what Kubs previously stated I am/was having the EXACT issues that he was describing and if anyone else is then maybe this thread will help them too. That was exactly the point of this thread and another reason why this is a great forum.
If anything I'm happy as to where this tread has gone because obviously there is an issue and there is now a path forward to fixing it.
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I will personally get to the bottom of this issue. I need a C5 to and get our current KB2 package installed to find out what is happening. We are using a fairly new company that makes our roto-mold intakes; they also do the packaging.
I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall
I live in the Bristol, TN area, Dru our CEO lives in Idaho. So between the two of us, we should be able to find a C5 for fitment. We will get it done. We will take care of updating anyone that has this issue, but need some pictures of the problem.
To contact me: Jim Hall, President: jhall@halltechsystems.com
To contact Dru: drul@halltechsystems.com
Kubs, what exactly is your fitment issue? could you be specific and send us some pics?
Over the past 20 years, we have not heard a word about fitment, so I am thinking something has changed in what is being sent out.
Thanks for your understanding.
Jim Hall