Solution to Buffeting
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No, I was not joking and although I was being facetious about the dumb question comment, there was no reason for you to get semi-quasi-somewhat nasty with your reply.
I was being perfectly serious: Has anyone out there tried to use the windscreen device that is used to reduce buffeting in the Vert?
Something I've noticed is that wind direction has a direct correlation with the amount of buffeting one feels while driving with the windows down. I was northbound on the highway with a strong southerly wind (in excess of 20 knots) and the buffeting was markedly stronger on that day; the buffeting subsided when I turned eastbound.
Mike
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In a coup, when the top is off, you still have the rather large glass rear hatch in place. This little metal device lifts the glass creating a gap between the glass hatch allowing the air to escape, reducing some of the interior turbulence.
With the vert, when the top is off, its off and no glass hatch for this little device to lift.
Since this device was made to hook onto the glass hatch and obviously the vert does not have a glass hatch, I thought you were joking.
With the vert, when the top is off, its off and no glass hatch for this little device to lift.
Since this device was made to hook onto the glass hatch and obviously the vert does not have a glass hatch, I thought you were joking.
Last edited by Monts; Nov 22, 2007 at 11:01 PM.
Melting Slicks
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In a coup, when the top is off, you still have the rather large glass rear hatch in place. This little metal device lifts the glass creating a gap between the glass hatch allowing the air to escape, reducing some of the interior turbulence.
With the vert, when the top is off, its off and no glass hatch for this little device to lift.
Since this device was made to hook onto the glass hatch and obviously the vert does not have a glass hatch, I thought you were joking.
With the vert, when the top is off, its off and no glass hatch for this little device to lift.
Since this device was made to hook onto the glass hatch and obviously the vert does not have a glass hatch, I thought you were joking.
Monts,
If you had taken a second to actually READ his "Stupid Question", you would have seen that he was asking about using this Vert Windscreen:
Not the hatch lifter. Looks like you gave a "stupid answer" to a rather intelligent question.
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My bad Ozone and mbsigman.
I did not read the question properly. Now that I realize it was the windscreen and not the hatch lift, I think it is a great question.
I also would like to know how well the screen works in a vert or a coup!
I did not read the question properly. Now that I realize it was the windscreen and not the hatch lift, I think it is a great question.
I also would like to know how well the screen works in a vert or a coup!
Melting Slicks
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From: San Antonio TX
No worries Monts! We've all done it before. Like we say in the military during promotion testing...RTFQ2 (Read The Full Question Twice)
Racer
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Partition not effective at reducing wind noise or buffeting
My partition does NOT appreciably reduce the wind noise in my coupe. It's still very noisy at 60+ mph speeds. The convertible wind blocker design may be helpful - if it were made for a coupe - but then you'd only have access to the trunk area via outside access. The convertible wind blocker is designed to allow wind turbulence to pass over the cockpit area, though some still gets in there. That which gets in is allowed to pass out via the screen mesh to the outside. Hence wind noise and turbulence are reduced significantly. With the coupe, you still have the solid glass hatch to deal with - wind gets into that area and buffets forward - making it both very windy and very Pnoisy in the cockpit. I wish there was an available fix for this also - like a draw-down mesh shade or something similar that would be easy to use and hardy enough to stand up to winds at 80 mph...
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My partition does NOT appreciably reduce the wind noise in my coupe. It's still very noisy at 60+ mph speeds. The convertible wind blocker design may be helpful - if it were made for a coupe - but then you'd only have access to the trunk area via outside access. The convertible wind blocker is designed to allow wind turbulence to pass over the cockpit area, though some still gets in there. That which gets in is allowed to pass out via the screen mesh to the outside. Hence wind noise and turbulence are reduced significantly. With the coupe, you still have the solid glass hatch to deal with - wind gets into that area and buffets forward - making it both very windy and very Pnoisy in the cockpit. I wish there was an available fix for this also - like a draw-down mesh shade or something similar that would be easy to use and hardy enough to stand up to winds at 80 mph...
That hatch stay open thingie might be the only viable solution for now.
Mr Monts - no worries and thanks for the mea culpa. Don't feel bad - Mr Ozone gigged me too last night for the RTFQ thang on another post!
I read on another thread about colored steering wheel spoke covers that stick on over the existing (as opposed to yanking the airbag and replacing the originals) and had not heard of those before; I got so flummoxed and ferklept that I replied without really Reading The uhh...F..lippin'..(well, thread in this case)Q!! 
Mike
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>>> My partition does NOT appreciably reduce the wind noise in my coupe. It's still very noisy at 60+ mph speeds.
Well, my organizer which also acts like a partition and trunk contents protector when parked with the top in the trunk (see post #35), significantly reduces noise.
At 65 mph driving down the freeway with the top off, it's easy to have a conversation with a passenger. Without the organizer/partition it's pretty much impossible, unless you yell. Listening to the radio is much easier and enjoyable.
Best mod I've done...
Well, my organizer which also acts like a partition and trunk contents protector when parked with the top in the trunk (see post #35), significantly reduces noise.
At 65 mph driving down the freeway with the top off, it's easy to have a conversation with a passenger. Without the organizer/partition it's pretty much impossible, unless you yell. Listening to the radio is much easier and enjoyable.
Best mod I've done...
Melting Slicks
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Mr Monts - no worries and thanks for the mea culpa. Don't feel bad - Mr Ozone gigged me too last night for the RTFQ thang on another post! I read on another thread about colored steering wheel spoke covers that stick on over the existing (as opposed to yanking the airbag and replacing the originals) and had not heard of those before; I got so flummoxed and ferklept that I replied without really Reading The uhh...F..lippin'..(well, thread in this case)Q!!
Mike
I read on another thread about colored steering wheel spoke covers that stick on over the existing (as opposed to yanking the airbag and replacing the originals) and had not heard of those before; I got so flummoxed and ferklept that I replied without really Reading The uhh...F..lippin'..(well, thread in this case)Q!! Mike
I apologize if I came off like a smarta$$, but it bugs me when folks get attacked here for asking a simple question. That seems to be happening a lot more often on this awesome forum. There are some real smart and helpful folks here. Even when the same question is asked for the 100th time, most folks answer it very respectfully. Then on the other end of the spectrum, you've got folks who sit there with their flame thrower ready to attack. Good luck out there and hope to chat with you all in future threads.
Ozone
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Solution to Buffeting
I think Ozone made an excellent point that tolerance of buffeting probably varies as much as tolerance to exhaust drone. The large variation in opinions about whether the partition helps buffeting bears that out. I liked the partition/organizer streetpix made. Thanks for sharing that!
TeamYellow
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I see I'm not the only one trying to answer that question.. I've tried calling exotic vettes for the last few days, but no one picks up...Perhaps they're away for the holiday, so I'll try again next week. In any case I don't think I'll order one unless I can talk to a real person there.
Melting Slicks
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Received my Exotic Vettes Partition yesterday. Fit and finish are excellent. Haven't verified the buffeting reduction yet, but there is a difference in the sound from the rear speakers. Couple of install questions:
1) Does the flap material on the front of the partition get folded and tucked under the factory carpet?
2) When I stowed my top, it mostly sat on top of the partition, but it does press against it bowing the partition a little...is this the correct fitment?
3) And this one is kinda silly, but does the front flap on the cargo cover go behind or in front of the partition (where it is visible in the rearview)?
Thanks
1) Does the flap material on the front of the partition get folded and tucked under the factory carpet?
2) When I stowed my top, it mostly sat on top of the partition, but it does press against it bowing the partition a little...is this the correct fitment?
3) And this one is kinda silly, but does the front flap on the cargo cover go behind or in front of the partition (where it is visible in the rearview)?
Thanks
Melting Slicks
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Received my Exotic Vettes Partition yesterday. Fit and finish are excellent. Haven't verified the buffeting reduction yet, but there is a difference in the sound from the rear speakers. Couple of install questions:
1) Does the flap material on the front of the partition get folded and tucked under the factory carpet?
2) When I stowed my top, it mostly sat on top of the partition, but it does press against it bowing the partition a little...is this the correct fitment?
3) And this one is kinda silly, but does the front flap on the cargo cover go behind or in front of the partition (where it is visible in the rearview)?
Thanks
1) Does the flap material on the front of the partition get folded and tucked under the factory carpet?
2) When I stowed my top, it mostly sat on top of the partition, but it does press against it bowing the partition a little...is this the correct fitment?
3) And this one is kinda silly, but does the front flap on the cargo cover go behind or in front of the partition (where it is visible in the rearview)?
Thanks
1. I put the flap OVER the factory carpet, perfect match.
2. Yes, it does bow the partition out slightly.
3. The cargo cover flap should fit behind the partition, you should see
it from the open hatch as you look towards the front of the car.
On a windy day it will blow in front of the partition if the hatch is
fully opened. If you are careful, you can get it to stay in the
right position while closing the hatch, otherwise, flip it back
while inside the car.
Melting Slicks
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From: San Antonio TX
Here are my answers based on my 18 months usage of this excellent product in two C6's. I swapped it out of my 2006 Vette when I recently traded it in for my 2008.
1. I put the flap OVER the factory carpet, perfect match.
2. Yes, it does bow the partition out slightly.
3. The cargo cover flap should fit behind the partition, you should see
it from the open hatch as you look towards the front of the car.
On a windy day it will blow in front of the partition if the hatch is
fully opened. If you are careful, you can get it to stay in the
right position while closing the hatch, otherwise, flip it back
while inside the car.
1. I put the flap OVER the factory carpet, perfect match.
2. Yes, it does bow the partition out slightly.
3. The cargo cover flap should fit behind the partition, you should see
it from the open hatch as you look towards the front of the car.
On a windy day it will blow in front of the partition if the hatch is
fully opened. If you are careful, you can get it to stay in the
right position while closing the hatch, otherwise, flip it back
while inside the car.
Safety Car
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From: Dalllas/Ft Worth Area TX
I have used the hatch open bracket which opens it up 2 1/2" and it cuts down buffeting approximately 20%. Of course, I have another use for it when I leave the windows partically down when I'm traveling to let heat out of the trunk area and still a small amount of security for suitcases in the trunk. Please note that we always park in the shade and hope there is a breeze blowing.
I recall hearing about the 'hatch open' gizmo but I never heard of anyone that used one. I'm really glad the partition solved your problem 
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Good ol' UPS. They now say they'll deliver my Lloyd's mats Wednesday instead of today. I'll let you all know how the partition fits with the mats then.
Le Mans Master
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it fits fine. installed my partition last night. i don't see what the mat would have to do with the way the partition fits. my partition was a little too wide and had to be trimmed some. there was also too much fabric left on the flap but that's easily trimmed too. none of the trimming had to do with the mat though.
Last edited by gbgary; Nov 26, 2007 at 10:29 PM.
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