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Things like radar detectors and other such devices I can undersdstand, even accept the notion they are "machinery", but a cover over your license plate or a spray-on solution that "fogs" the image of the plate doesn't seem like machinery to me.
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From: Sammamish WA
We are fighting back against this illegal spying and ticketing by redlight and speeding cameras. www.photoblocker.com. It works so well we don't even give the "photo eyes" any thought anymore.
They can't ticket what they can't read. 
They can't ticket what they can't read. I mean, if one stands at 45 degrees to a mirror and snaps a photo, the flash isn't going to appear in the mirror - or is it?
(Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a physicist!) well, actually I'm not a doctor either...
I'm sure Im missing soimething here, otherwise the state wouldn't insist we replce our licnse plates every 7 years due to the reflectivity (is that a word?) degrading.
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From: Cleveland, OH
In Cleveland and its environs a photo radar ticket is a civil case and not a traffic offense, but a good friend, a lawyer and local magistrate said the records are open and the insrance companies are starting to examine such--just a matter of time. I saw where AZ is going to drop photo radar and there may be enough signatures in OH to get a referendum on the ballot. One suburb here uses a white SUV with AZ plates and even stated they need revenue. Generated a ton of tix the first week.
I received one last year on a I-90 spur where if you slow down to 35 you risk getting tail ended or driven around and if you speed up to avoid traffic on the spur that has the right away you get a-"surprise"- ticket. 102 bucks from a stationery black and white with no LEO in it. God the 50s were a great time to live!
I received one last year on a I-90 spur where if you slow down to 35 you risk getting tail ended or driven around and if you speed up to avoid traffic on the spur that has the right away you get a-"surprise"- ticket. 102 bucks from a stationery black and white with no LEO in it. God the 50s were a great time to live!
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From: Tucson Arizona
In Cleveland and its environs a photo radar ticket is a civil case and not a traffic offense, but a good friend, a lawyer and local magistrate said the records are open and the insrance companies are starting to examine such--just a matter of time. I saw where AZ is going to drop photo radar and there may be enough signatures in OH to get a referendum on the ballot. One suburb here uses a white SUV with AZ plates and even stated they need revenue. Generated a ton of tix the first week.
I received one last year on a I-90 spur where if you slow down to 35 you risk getting tail ended or driven around and if you speed up to avoid traffic on the spur that has the right away you get a-"surprise"- ticket. 102 bucks from a stationery black and white with no LEO in it. God the 50s were a great time to live!
I received one last year on a I-90 spur where if you slow down to 35 you risk getting tail ended or driven around and if you speed up to avoid traffic on the spur that has the right away you get a-"surprise"- ticket. 102 bucks from a stationery black and white with no LEO in it. God the 50s were a great time to live!
You can bet if the insurance companies can collect data that will justify their raising rates they're going to do it.At this point only the State of Arizona discontinued their contract for the photo radar vans on state/Interstate highways....not necessarily within any county or municipal jurisdiction. Score another one for Governor Jan Brewer!
Tucson seems to be creating new revenue enhancement zones as quickly as they can. I believe Phoenix uses photo radar/red light cameras fairly extensively. I read in the Tucson area something like 60% of everyone cited for a photo radar offense simply ignored the citation and after a period of time it simply 'went away.' I imagine the government will change that...they're desperate for our money.
My complaint against photo radar is that it violates one of our primary legal principles (not that government cares). There's supposed to be equality under the law for everyone in this country. If a person drives here from Mexico and is 'caught' by photo radar they will not be prosecuted. The government can't run a plate on a Mexican vehicle. Why can one person be exempt from the law and someone else can't?
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From: Gaithersburg MD A member since 2007 but then the computer crashed and then the car crash loss of memory X 2
I got 3 speed camera tickets all on the same day. $40.00 per photo. Glad they didn't have them on the opposite side.
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From: San Francisco CA
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From: San Francisco CA
I don't have any doc. proof but i have it on our tags and have been flashed a couple of times. I bet they are not happy when they can't mail out their $100. ticket.
Same thing with our Daughter. She is happy she is not suppling any more money to the cities "illegal tax fund". I have not heard of anything that could read a vin but if so make sure something is "hiding it".
Same thing with our Daughter. She is happy she is not suppling any more money to the cities "illegal tax fund". I have not heard of anything that could read a vin but if so make sure something is "hiding it". 
As long as you know you got hit (you can see these cameras flash) and no ticket then it has got to be working.
How often do you have to spray?
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From: Swoyersville PA
My preference in radar detectors is the V1 with it's arrows, so I bought a Cheetah C100 redlight/speed camera GPS "detector". Mostly for the speed camera issue when we are on road trips.
The C100 seems to work pretty well, they have a newer version with a different model number that I haven't tried.
The C100 seems to work pretty well, they have a newer version with a different model number that I haven't tried.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NVH3atDxlU
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My preference in radar detectors is the V1 with it's arrows, so I bought a Cheetah C100 redlight/speed camera GPS "detector". Mostly for the speed camera issue when we are on road trips.
The C100 seems to work pretty well, they have a newer version with a different model number that I haven't tried.
The C100 seems to work pretty well, they have a newer version with a different model number that I haven't tried.
Some of also have GPS units so that would be 3 extra units.
Any space issues?
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From: Swoyersville PA
The c-100 has a few more bells, now that I know it'll work well with my v1 I will shell out a few extra to get it.
I will most likely have it mounted underneath the rear view mirror when I get my kit for the v1 to mount under the rear view. The trick will be getting it set up so I can still get my fingers underneath the v1 to press the buttons on the c-100
the cheetah products are 50 state legal
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http://www.speedcheetah.com/scshop/p...rison-gps.html
The c-100 has a few more bells, now that I know it'll work well with my v1 I will shell out a few extra to get it.
I will most likely have it mounted underneath the rear view mirror when I get my kit for the v1 to mount under the rear view. The trick will be getting it set up so I can still get my fingers underneath the v1 to press the buttons on the c-100
the cheetah products are 50 state legal
The c-100 has a few more bells, now that I know it'll work well with my v1 I will shell out a few extra to get it.
I will most likely have it mounted underneath the rear view mirror when I get my kit for the v1 to mount under the rear view. The trick will be getting it set up so I can still get my fingers underneath the v1 to press the buttons on the c-100
the cheetah products are 50 state legal
I'm going to have to look in to this.
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No ignorance here because we have to find out ways to stop this illegal spying, invasion of privacy, big brother, etc. Some cities are banning these cameras due to outrage by citizens.
The camera is not blinded i don't think, the tag just appears unreadable.
I took several shots at different angles- using flash- and the tag appears as just a reflective blur. Sometimes i could see some of the letters/numbers but not All of them. But then again i am not a doc. or phys. either.
I can tell you it apparently works because we have been flashed and our daughter has been as well.
The camera is not blinded i don't think, the tag just appears unreadable.
I took several shots at different angles- using flash- and the tag appears as just a reflective blur. Sometimes i could see some of the letters/numbers but not All of them. But then again i am not a doc. or phys. either.
I can tell you it apparently works because we have been flashed and our daughter has been as well.
sounds like a winner to me
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From: Houston TX
In Cleveland and its environs a photo radar ticket is a civil case and not a traffic offense, but a good friend, a lawyer and local magistrate said the records are open and the insrance companies are starting to examine such--just a matter of time. I saw where AZ is going to drop photo radar and there may be enough signatures in OH to get a referendum on the ballot. One suburb here uses a white SUV with AZ plates and even stated they need revenue. Generated a ton of tix the first week.
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Got mine while I was still in Illinois ON A RIGHT TURN ON RED, which was allowed, HOWEVER, I didn't come to a complete stop (it had just turned so the other traffic hadn't moved yet).
I always stop at red lights before I make a right turn, and was convinced that it had to be wrong.
But, when I pulled up the video, there it was, me following the car in front of me as the light turned red.
The governments are so in debt, can't pay the public employees enough in salary and retirement (wished I went to work for the govt back in the 70's), we'll reach the point where they'll be fines for a whole lot of things we can't even imagine right now.
Fascism rules all govts eventually.
I always stop at red lights before I make a right turn, and was convinced that it had to be wrong.
But, when I pulled up the video, there it was, me following the car in front of me as the light turned red.
The governments are so in debt, can't pay the public employees enough in salary and retirement (wished I went to work for the govt back in the 70's), we'll reach the point where they'll be fines for a whole lot of things we can't even imagine right now.
Fascism rules all govts eventually.
New World Order is due
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From: Baton Rouge LOUISIANA
Here is a copy of mine. I have posted it on my wall in my office for all to see. It was given to me in LAfayette, LA by a redlight/speed camera for speeding a whopping 48mph in a 40mph zone. At least the fine was only $25.
Talk about a speed trap!