Quit yappin on the phone and driving
pull over if you want to talk
whats the matter with you people
You could have hit me running that red light.

 

I see your point. However, you may take pride in approaching "stale" green lights with caution and doing your best to stop. Sadly, not all drivers are like you.

Obeying the law is something we all should do. Yet, a camera with it's only purpose being to collect money is not only unsafe it is a path down a road that has already led to speed cameras with motorists being fined for less then 10 MPH over the limit.

 

Sorry if you felt that I was one of the attackers. I believed we were in a discussion exchanging our opinions.

While it's true I did not say anything concerning the product you suggested I really took most of my cue from your statement concerning your daughter and grandkids and her being pressed for time, getting several redlight camera tickets, using this product and then getting several more "Flashes" but not recieving any tickets.

To me and IMHO that's a little more than a red light camera problem. I could be wrong though and that's why I asked her route because if she is constantly having trouble with time and space in the intersection I simply don't want to be around.


Really! sounds like a lib copout...



Let's see... same situation/circumstance being in the intersection, let's say it is a short yellow, Camera or LEO, You'll complain about the camera but wouldn't have a leg to stand on with the LEO with the same ticket.

 

I don't have to worry about those stinking cameras any longer.

http://www.buyradardetectors.com/pro...protector.aspx

 

As a taxpayer im excited the government is collecting money from people who continue to run red lights. Id rather have that than be taxed to death for programs i dont use. If I choose to run a red light to save time, ill gladly pay my "toll" and move on. We have had them here for a year in october and everyone in my family has managed to avoid the falling sky and rlc violations.

 

If they don't have a money back guaranteed satisfaction or your money back I would not bother with this product.
Eckler's has such a guarantee.
There is another vendor on-line (not here) Specture Guard similiar product that does not work and will get you in trouble.
They will not refund your $$$ back unless you purchase via credit card where the credit card company will reverse the charges

 

 

I certainly don't blow through red lights nor do I speed.

But if they ever do come to PA, I'll certainly be the first in line for detectors or other technology to identify them ahead of time.

If the tax man wants to cheat me out of my dough, why not get a leg up and cheat back?

Been to states that have these revenue enhancement tools. Nothing more dangerous than a doofus on the road giving all of their attention to watching out for red light cameras or speed cameras and none on their driving.

Equally as dangerous as cellphone morons engaging 100 per cent of their brain on talking and none on driving.

 

Talked to a good friend today. Told me more about the speed cameras that had been put up 6 months ago. I knew that He had been 1 of the victims shortly after the the "robotic law enforcers" went into "tax collecting" for the city and to "protect the public".

These things are on a 4-lane with a 45mph speed limit sending the unfortunate recipient doing 5 mph over a notice that relieves their bank account of $100.00.

He told me he was coming home 1 day in his '02 Vette after a hard day at the office and went by the "robotic protectors" at 51 mph and he told me he got "flashed" and wondered if he would be mailed a "contribution" to the cities coffers.

That, he told me was a month ago and no dreaded ticket ever came.
He told me he wanted to take me and wife out to lunch because of what i had saved him and wanted to thank me.

I had sprayed photoblocker on his tag 2 months ago.

 

It will probably be the "clueless sheepie" that comes on here crying because he received a ticket from the "flawless cameras" that he has supported.

 

[QUOTE=RLSebring;1574829757] While it's true I did not say anything concerning the product you suggested I really took most of my cue from your statement concerning your daughter and grandkids and her being pressed for time, getting several redlight camera tickets, using this product and then getting several more "Flashes" but not recieving any tickets.

I had already stated on several posts that these are "quick red light cameras". It was Not Just my Daughter losing their hard-earned $$$ to this "Big Brother Takeover", it is her Friends, co-workers, and other people she and her husband come into contact with.

To me and IMHO that's a little more than a red light camera problem. I could be wrong though and that's why I asked her route because if she is constantly having trouble with time and space in the intersection I simply don't want to be around.

It is more than a red light problem, it is a deliberate set-up cash cow problem.

Why do you want her route? don't want to be around? that is 1 pi$$ poor excuse i've heard

You leavin florida?

 

No problem, call me a "sheeple", or whatever you want to call me; however, I know that there are much better ways for police officers to spend their valuable time than to sit around at intersections and watch for light runners and speeders, when cameras can do the job better.

It is very obvious that "some" of these posters are in denial about their speeding and light running, when they insist that the camera is lying about the 4 or 5 tickets that they have received in the mail.

Now, regarding the rude and thoughtless comments that were made about my flag (), I will continue to fly my flag () as long as My Son and other sons & daughters are in harms way in Afghanistan and Iraq. So please keep your comments about my flag () to yourself.

I'll say no more!

 

Really? Maybe you should talk to a police officer that will be honest with you.


When stopped for a moving violation by a police officer at the very least you are allowed to give your side of the story. Such as "officer the car or truck behind me was so close if I would of stopped it would of hit me". There are a multitude of reasons drivers break the vehicle code. Things are not always black and white.

I think it is cute the way some accept the way in which government collects money by recording people. However, at some point the same people will wake up and realize the road we are headed down. Where will it stop? Will they record you smoking in public, jay walking, spitting on the street with the sole purpose of collecting money? Will they issue you speeding tickets for a mere 5 MPH over the limit?

No issue with honest safety at all. However, the red light cameras are often more dangerous when placed.

I have seen some foolish and self serving posts on this issue. After reading some of these post it is clear as a bell why America is in the trouble she is in today. People just accept what government does and does not do. Just as people have and still accept the way the government is handling the boarders. Then one day they wake up and wonder what country they are in. It is sad to see the apathy towards government today.

Last, a sincere thank you for your sons service to our country.

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Things are out of control. This is ridiculous. It's time that the people take out the current regime of people in power. You can apply this to all of the stupid laws in the Republik of KA.
They haven't yet figured out how to tax and charge for the air that we breathe but have for our cars.

 

A corrupt government that imposes taxes, more control, power, graft in the name of safety as deception to let people think they know what is good for the people while they enjoy thier own luxuries of life and greed.
For most people it is easier to be a sheep than a wolf herding the sheep.

 

The wolf never herds the sheep....it chases them down and eats them.

 

Yet, believe it or not we have members who are ignorant of the fact goverment is not installing RLC's for their safety.

"As a taxpayer im excited the government is collecting money from people who continue to run red lights. Id rather have that than be taxed to death for programs i dont use. If I choose to run a red light to save time, ill gladly pay my "toll" and move on. We have had them here for a year in october and everyone in my family has managed to avoid the falling sky and rlc violations."

Above is a prime example why we have the leaders we have today.

 

I know this I just wanted to make an example but even more so now it's becoming this way as those in power now will hunt everyone else down who don't conform to their ways.

 

All I can say if someone runs a red light and hits me or my wife, if I'm still able to move they will be facing down the business end of a Glock M19/PPK/LCP or whatever I happen to be carrying at the time as I consider that to be assault. No excuse for yakking on a cell, eating a burger or playing with yourself while doing what is the most dangerous thing 99% of us ever do, which is driving. I guess if I'm on the Hog they get a free pass as I'll probably be DOA.

BTW I think redlight cameras are BS as they are configured as revenue generators.

 

QUOTE=FloridaGrandSport;1574848153]All I can say if someone runs a red light and hits me or my wife, if I'm still able to move they will be facing down the business end of a Glock M19/PPK/LCP or whatever I happen to be carrying at the time as I consider that to be assault. No excuse for yakking on a cell, eating a burger or playing with yourself while doing what is the most dangerous thing 99% of us ever do, which is driving. I guess if I'm on the Hog they get a free pass as I'll probably be DOA.

BTW I think redlight cameras are BS as they are configured as revenue generators.[/QUOTE]

you got that right.
Glock 19 = 9mm?
Glock 21 better