redlight camera
http://www.youtube.com/user/HCSOvide...10/vh8VC2LMoCY
http://www.youtube.com/user/HCSOvide...11/GVuEQyZKsQg
The sky is not falling on my head, I get along just fine with no tickets. Program is very fair here, they dont issue violations for right on red unless its over 15mph. I agree that right on red at slow speeds is nuts, but everywhere does it different I think thats part of the mass hysteria. Some places are fair, some are too strict.
Now I cant believe that someone with a busted garage floor would even be allowed to vote......
A corrupt government that imposes taxes, more control, power, graft in the name of safety as deception to let people think they know what is good for the people while they enjoy thier own luxuries of life and greed. For most people it is easier to be a sheep than a wolf herding the sheep.

Sadly, many other Vette owners don't get the "in the name of safety as deception" part.
Amazing to see a society say "Please governemt, rip me off more"!
Adding new laws legitimizing a ripoff seems to be the current trend. Wipers/lights laws, doubling fines in safety corridors or construction zones, increased penalties for "agressive driving" for whatever "agressive driving" means as opposed to speeding, improper passing, or reckless driving. The list just goes on and on. And many are helped out by the insurance lobby which stands to make easy money in the increased violations.
As the great Jim Gerhart of NJ1015 fame says "he swears there is a supercomputer in the basement of the state house that scans every human activity to determine what has not yet been taxed or regulated".
Bring on the satellite based radar/speed camera detectors!
http://www.youtube.com/user/HCSOvide...10/vh8VC2LMoCY
http://www.youtube.com/user/HCSOvide...11/GVuEQyZKsQg
The sky is not falling on my head, I get along just fine with no tickets. Program is very fair here, they dont issue violations for right on red unless its over 15mph. I agree that right on red at slow speeds is nuts, but everywhere does it different I think thats part of the mass hysteria. Some places are fair, some are too strict.
Now I cant believe that someone with a busted garage floor would even be allowed to vote......
It has no plates and the plastic is still on the seats. The picture was taken at the dealer the day the car was delivered. With perception like yours maybe the red light cameras are a good thing for you and the rest of us.No the sky is not falling. Yet someday with a apathetic attitude you may wake up to find the sky a little to close for comfort.
"On Wednesday, a woman locked in the back of an Arizona Department of Public Safety (DPS) police car burned to death as a result of a rear end collision on Interstate 10 near Tucson. The Ford Crown Victoria models used by DPS are known to explode when struck from behind. Even though the cruiser was equipped with a special fire suppression system, it failed to prevent the fire. A similar sort of high-speed, rear end collision can happen on a freeway where speed cameras are used.
A preliminary examination of Scottsdale’s freeway camera program found a 54 percent increase in rear end collisions accompanied the 110,962 automated tickets issued in 2006. These accidents happened as motorists nearing the cameras panicked and braked suddenly to avoid receiving a citation. They were then struck from behind by motorists who failed to react in time to the unexpected maneuver.
A similar panic reaction caused a serious injury accident in Victorville, California, also on Wednesday. According to the Victorville Daily Press, a driver afraid of earning a $426 ticket slammed on the brakes during a yellow light at Bear Valley Road and Seventh Avenue. This driver stopped in time. The driver immediately behind also stopped in time after applying the brakes at full force. The third vehicle behind was driven by a woman who did not stop in time. Her minivan slammed the second vehicle into the first. The woman’s injuries were so serious that she had to be taken by helicopter to the Arrowhead Regional Medical Center"
Rear End Accidents Prove Deadly
Jun 6, 2009 ... Traffic cameras cause serious accidents in Tucson, Arizona; Victorville, ... California Court of Appeal Publishes Red Light Camera Hearsay Decision ... A similar panic reaction caused a serious injury accident in ...
www.thenewspaper.com › ... › Red Light Cameras - Cached - SimilarTraffic Cameras Cause Serious Accidents | The Truth About Cars
Jun 6, 2009 ... A similar panic reaction caused a serious injury accident in Victorville ... It's not like I like red light cameras… but the article doesn't ...
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tra...ous-accidents/ - Cached - Similar
2007 Virginia DOT Report Shows Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents
Cameras were associated with an increase of between 31 percent and 54 percent for rear-end crashes overall," the report found. "The association of the cameras with angle crashes differed among jurisdictions, although a preponderance of test results suggested an increase."
2007 Virginia DOT Report Shows Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents
Jul 5, 2007 ... Although it is now widely accepted that red light cameras are associated with increases in the number of rear end collisions, the VTRC ...
www.thenewspaper.com › ... › Red Light Cameras - Cached - SimilarRed-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It
Jan 8, 2008 ... First, they dismiss increases in rear-end collisions associated with red light cameras as “non-significant,” despite evidence to the ...
blog.motorists.org/red-light-cameras-increase-accidents-5-studies-that-prove-it/ - Cached - SimilarRear-end collisions jump at red-light camera intersections in West ...
May 24, 2010 ... Rear-end collisions jump at red-light camera intersections in ... --The only injury in either period came under cameras, in a rear-end crash ...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...ra-706186.html - Cached
Last edited by Vette Suspension; Jul 29, 2010 at 11:59 PM.
Amazing to see a society say "Please governemt, rip me off more"!
Adding new laws legitimizing a ripoff seems to be the current trend. Wipers/lights laws, doubling fines in safety corridors or construction zones, increased penalties for "agressive driving" for whatever "agressive driving" means as opposed to speeding, improper passing, or reckless driving. The list just goes on and on. And many are helped out by the insurance lobby which stands to make easy money in the increased violations.
As the great Jim Gerhart of NJ1015 fame says "he swears there is a supercomputer in the basement of the state house that scans every human activity to determine what has not yet been taxed or regulated".
Bring on the satellite based radar/speed camera detectors!
Guess I better order some Photoblocker.
It is very obvious that "some" of these posters are in denial about their speeding and light running, when they insist that the camera is lying about the 4 or 5 tickets that they have received in the mail.
Now, regarding the rude and thoughtless comments that were made about my flag (
), I will continue to fly my flag (
) as long as My Son and other sons & daughters are in harms way in Afghanistan and Iraq. So please keep your comments about my flag (
) to yourself.I'll say no more!

I can't speak for anyone else but i have always been very careful approching traffic signals, i have seen what damage can be done by "mashing the gas at the red".
Speeding and street racing are another story. I enjoyed that for half my life, you know "adrenaline rush"? I still make a few 0-90 mph runs at times and get the "rush".
Originally Posted by Rebel 1
We are fighting back against this illegal spying and ticketing by redlight and speeding cameras. www.photoblocker.com. It works so well we don't even give the "photo eyes" any thought anymore. They can't ticket what they can't read.
This company will not sell Photoblocker spray in California. So where else can you get this?
Originally Posted by Rebel 1
We are fighting back against this illegal spying and ticketing by redlight and speeding cameras. www.photoblocker.com. It works so well we don't even give the "photo eyes" any thought anymore. They can't ticket what they can't read.
This company will not sell Photoblocker spray in California. So where else can you get this?



Who is your accuser when your ticket is based on a camera? Have also heard an attorney say that you just say it was not me driving the car. Ticket is to the car. Apparently you are not obligated to offer up who was driving the car. Dunno...I'm not an attorney nor do I play one on TV.
Good luck.....Mark
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The 2010 Florida Legislature passed House Bill 325, named after Mark Wandall who was killed by a red light runner. Sadly a father and three sons were killed last week by a red light runner.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug...st-pete-crash/
Would the camera have stopped him? No but Im sure it wasnt the first time he ran a red light. Maybe if he had a half dozen fines he would have changed his driving habits. Of course he was drunk too so who knows. Either way, im glad red light runners money will go to the government and supplement my taxes.
Last edited by NDAWIND; Aug 3, 2010 at 09:07 PM.


The 2010 Florida Legislature passed House Bill 325, named after Mark Wandall who was killed by a red light runner. Sadly a father and three sons were killed last week by a red light runner.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/aug...st-pete-crash/
Would the camera have stopped him? No but Im sure it wasnt the first time he ran a red light. Maybe if he had a half dozen fines he would have changed his driving habits. Of course he was drunk too so who knows. Either way, im glad red light runners money will go to the government and supplement my taxes.
He probably didn't receive the last 7 or so tickets that he was flashed for.
It has no plates and the plastic is still on the seats. The picture was taken at the dealer the day the car was delivered. With perception like yours maybe the red light cameras are a good thing for you and the rest of us.No the sky is not falling. Yet someday with a apathetic attitude you may wake up to find the sky a little to close for comfort.
"On Wednesday, a woman locked in the back of an Arizona Department of Public Safety (DPS) police car burned to death as a result of a rear end collision on Interstate 10 near Tucson. The Ford Crown Victoria models used by DPS are known to explode when struck from behind. Even though the cruiser was equipped with a special fire suppression system, it failed to prevent the fire. A similar sort of high-speed, rear end collision can happen on a freeway where speed cameras are used.
A preliminary examination of Scottsdale’s freeway camera program found a 54 percent increase in rear end collisions accompanied the 110,962 automated tickets issued in 2006. These accidents happened as motorists nearing the cameras panicked and braked suddenly to avoid receiving a citation. They were then struck from behind by motorists who failed to react in time to the unexpected maneuver.
A similar panic reaction caused a serious injury accident in Victorville, California, also on Wednesday. According to the Victorville Daily Press, a driver afraid of earning a $426 ticket slammed on the brakes during a yellow light at Bear Valley Road and Seventh Avenue. This driver stopped in time. The driver immediately behind also stopped in time after applying the brakes at full force. The third vehicle behind was driven by a woman who did not stop in time. Her minivan slammed the second vehicle into the first. The woman’s injuries were so serious that she had to be taken by helicopter to the Arrowhead Regional Medical Center"
Rear End Accidents Prove Deadly
Jun 6, 2009 ... Traffic cameras cause serious accidents in Tucson, Arizona; Victorville, ... California Court of Appeal Publishes Red Light Camera Hearsay Decision ... A similar panic reaction caused a serious injury accident in ...
www.thenewspaper.com › ... › Red Light Cameras - Cached - SimilarTraffic Cameras Cause Serious Accidents | The Truth About Cars
Jun 6, 2009 ... A similar panic reaction caused a serious injury accident in Victorville ... It's not like I like red light cameras… but the article doesn't ...
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tra...ous-accidents/ - Cached - Similar
2007 Virginia DOT Report Shows Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents
Cameras were associated with an increase of between 31 percent and 54 percent for rear-end crashes overall," the report found. "The association of the cameras with angle crashes differed among jurisdictions, although a preponderance of test results suggested an increase."
2007 Virginia DOT Report Shows Red Light Cameras Increase Accidents
Jul 5, 2007 ... Although it is now widely accepted that red light cameras are associated with increases in the number of rear end collisions, the VTRC ...
www.thenewspaper.com › ... › Red Light Cameras - Cached - SimilarRed-Light Cameras Increase Accidents: 5 Studies That Prove It
Jan 8, 2008 ... First, they dismiss increases in rear-end collisions associated with red light cameras as “non-significant,” despite evidence to the ...
blog.motorists.org/red-light-cameras-increase-accidents-5-studies-that-prove-it/ - Cached - SimilarRear-end collisions jump at red-light camera intersections in West ...
May 24, 2010 ... Rear-end collisions jump at red-light camera intersections in ... --The only injury in either period came under cameras, in a rear-end crash ...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...ra-706186.html - Cached


Maybe if more people had the "spray" on their tag maybe they wouldn't be slamming on their brakes being afraid of getting a "quick camera flash".
Originally Posted by Rebel 1
We are fighting back against this illegal spying and ticketing by redlight and speeding cameras. www.photoblocker.com. It works so well we don't even give the "photo eyes" any thought anymore. They can't ticket what they can't read.
This company will not sell Photoblocker spray in California. So where else can you get this?

Maybe a friend can get it in another state and send it to you.
Last edited by Rebel 1; Aug 4, 2010 at 03:21 AM.
I get the people like VS who are philosophically opposed to the use of red light cameras, that is their right. But to have posts telling people how to do it anyway and get away with it, I say open the discussion up for street racing too. As a forum do we pick which laws we can have discussions on how to defeat? I mean whats next a nice thread on where to hide the dope in the c6 if you’re a mule?


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It is Really Pathetic how Some people put their "Complete Trust" in govt. to tell them How to run their lives. I believe some people are very comfortable with being told what is best for them and to Tax them to Death. Reminds me of lambs being led to the slaughter. There is an old quote as important now as in years past, "A people who give up Freedom for Safety deserve Neither".""
It's not pathetic in general, just to you apparently. There are troves of people that are far right and those that are far left then those who are somewhere around the middle. Thank somebody for the middle.
I haven't found anywhere the Government has told me that I cannot do something. In this discussion for example they haven't told me I cannot run a redlight they only say that if you do and you get caught you will get a ticket. You can do it as many times as you like and can afford (or survive) it. I personally would prefer you to NOT run the redlight and possibly endanger my life, the life of those I love and property in the process.
That blanket quote was old then and old now. Not that easy to be clean cut about it. Somewhere there's a balance between Order and Chaos.
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It is Really Pathetic how Some people put their "Complete Trust" in govt. to tell them How to run their lives. I believe some people are very comfortable with being told what is best for them and to Tax them to Death. Reminds me of lambs being led to the slaughter. There is an old quote as important now as in years past, "A people who give up Freedom for Safety deserve Neither".""
It's not pathetic in general, just to you apparently. There are troves of people that are far right and those that are far left then those who are somewhere around the middle. Thank somebody for the middle.
I haven't found anywhere the Government has told me that I cannot do something. In this discussion for example they haven't told me I cannot run a redlight they only say that if you do and you get caught you will get a ticket. You can do it as many times as you like and can afford (or survive) it. I personally would prefer you to NOT run the redlight and possibly endanger my life, the life of those I love and property in the process.
That blanket quote was old then and old now. Not that easy to be clean cut about it. Somewhere there's a balance between Order and Chaos.



and the other scenery is pretty good too.....
to every advantage their is a disadvantage. Many different versions & different lifestyles. I was born and raised here so I have seen the changes and can say that.
The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
But expect to pay alot of $$$ for anything here and get less services.
The cost of living, Real Estate, rent, fuel, water plus having to deal with the neglected freeways & roads so you will need alot more alignments.
The expense to operate a vehicle is higher here.

The insurance for Corvette will be much higher here in the State of Chaos Kali Republik compared to another state.
Seems to be those $$$monies alotted for specific funds end up going somewhere else. Result = no money no budget and no credit.
The State of Chaos used to have a great credit rating.

and the other scenery is pretty good too.....
















