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St. Jude Donor '17
Two sides to every coin my friend. I would agree that our esteemed lawmakers have run lost their minds, but you can't talk about how bad it is without talking about why it's such a great place to live. NorCal is epic, in my very humble opinion. Especially if you own a Corvette!!!!
and the other scenery is pretty good too.....
and the other scenery is pretty good too.....
But of course
to every advantage their is a disadvantage. Many different versions & different lifestyles.
I was born and raised here so I have seen the changes and can say that.
The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
But expect to pay alot of $$$ for anything here and get less services.
The cost of living, Real Estate, rent, fuel, water plus having to deal with the neglected freeways & roads so you will need alot more alignments.
The expense to operate a vehicle is higher here.
The insurance for Corvette will be much higher here in the State of Chaos Kali Republik compared to another state.
Seems to be those $$$monies alotted for specific funds end up going somewhere else. Result = no money no budget and no credit.
The State of Chaos used to have a great credit rating.
to every advantage their is a disadvantage. Many different versions & different lifestyles. I was born and raised here so I have seen the changes and can say that.
The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
But expect to pay alot of $$$ for anything here and get less services.
The cost of living, Real Estate, rent, fuel, water plus having to deal with the neglected freeways & roads so you will need alot more alignments.
The expense to operate a vehicle is higher here.
The insurance for Corvette will be much higher here in the State of Chaos Kali Republik compared to another state.
Seems to be those $$$monies alotted for specific funds end up going somewhere else. Result = no money no budget and no credit.
The State of Chaos used to have a great credit rating.
I don't doubt any of this for a minute and I'll stay put here in Florida. But I will visit Cali once again in the coming months. It's been several years since I have set foot there.
We're planning the PCH tour now and really just trying to decide how far South to begin the epic adventure. Seattle or maybe Nova will be the ending point unless we hop the boat on up to Alaska. We're setting aside 30 days to do so. Also trying to decide whether to drive the Vette out or Fly out and rent a ZHZ for a month.
Let me know where those fast yellows are though. I don't mind leaving a little money behind to help ya'll out but don't want to spend foolishly.
Any suggestion on the time of year to enjoy the coast. We like it 70ish and don't want to get snowed in.
Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '12
The red light cams are in the process of being tossed in CA. Recent court rulings have thrown out convictions over evidence issues....most camera's are owned by private companies who split fees...they have no one to come to court to testify the camera was properly in synch that day etc....folks have caught on, demanded trials, a bingo tickets going away right and left as the DA can't legally prove the case, if not at trial then in the first round of appeals at the Superior Court appellate level (easy to do without being a lawyer) (just gotta hate those pesky constitutional rights).
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The red light cams are in the process of being tossed in CA. Recent court rulings have thrown out convictions over evidence issues....most camera's are owned by private companies who split fees...they have no one to come to court to testify the camera was properly in synch that day etc....folks have caught on, demanded trials, a bingo tickets going away right and left as the DA can't legally prove the case, if not at trial then in the first round of appeals at the Superior Court appellate level (easy to do without being a lawyer) (just gotta hate those pesky constitutional rights).
Maybe a class action lawsuit would put the RLC camera companies out of business for good.
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I don't doubt any of this for a minute and I'll stay put here in Florida. But I will visit Cali once again in the coming months. It's been several years since I have set foot there.
We're planning the PCH tour now and really just trying to decide how far South to begin the epic adventure. Seattle or maybe Nova will be the ending point unless we hop the boat on up to Alaska. We're setting aside 30 days to do so. Also trying to decide whether to drive the Vette out or Fly out and rent a ZHZ for a month.
Let me know where those fast yellows are though. I don't mind leaving a little money behind to help ya'll out but don't want to spend foolishly.
Any suggestion on the time of year to enjoy the coast. We like it 70ish and don't want to get snowed in.
I don't doubt any of this for a minute and I'll stay put here in Florida. But I will visit Cali once again in the coming months. It's been several years since I have set foot there.
We're planning the PCH tour now and really just trying to decide how far South to begin the epic adventure. Seattle or maybe Nova will be the ending point unless we hop the boat on up to Alaska. We're setting aside 30 days to do so. Also trying to decide whether to drive the Vette out or Fly out and rent a ZHZ for a month.
Let me know where those fast yellows are though. I don't mind leaving a little money behind to help ya'll out but don't want to spend foolishly.
Any suggestion on the time of year to enjoy the coast. We like it 70ish and don't want to get snowed in.
It's nice down towards Big Sur.
See what it looked like in 1971 in the movie, "Play Misty for me".
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Great movie. Ever been to the restaurant?
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Yes I have but not recently. Went there maybe 25 years or so and at the time it was just your basic hamburger stuff. Lots of restuarants on Pacific Cannery Row in Monterey by Monterey Aquarium.
But have never been to the Sardine Factory which was in the movie.
Beautiful coast road to drive that ZHZ rental
But have never been to the Sardine Factory which was in the movie.
Beautiful coast road to drive that ZHZ rental
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Yes I have but not recently. Went there maybe 25 years or so and at the time it was just your basic hamburger stuff. Lots of restuarants on Pacific Cannery Row in Monterey by Monterey Aquarium.
But have never been to the Sardine Factory which was in the movie.
Beautiful coast road to drive that ZHZ rental
But have never been to the Sardine Factory which was in the movie.
Beautiful coast road to drive that ZHZ rental
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Drifting
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""Rebel 1 has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - redlight camera - in the C6 Corvette General Discussion forum of Corvette Forum.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-corvette-general-discussion/2639297-redlight-camera-new-post.html
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It is Really Pathetic how Some people put their "Complete Trust" in govt. to tell them How to run their lives. I believe some people are very comfortable with being told what is best for them and to Tax them to Death. Reminds me of lambs being led to the slaughter. There is an old quote as important now as in years past, "A people who give up Freedom for Safety deserve Neither".""
It's not pathetic in general, just to you apparently. There are troves of people that are far right and those that are far left then those who are somewhere around the middle. Thank somebody for the middle.
I haven't found anywhere the Government has told me that I cannot do something. In this discussion for example they haven't told me I cannot run a redlight they only say that if you do and you get caught you will get a ticket. You can do it as many times as you like and can afford (or survive) it. I personally would prefer you to NOT run the redlight and possibly endanger my life, the life of those I love and property in the process.
That blanket quote was old then and old now. Not that easy to be clean cut about it. Somewhere there's a balance between Order and Chaos.
This thread is located at:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-corvette-general-discussion/2639297-redlight-camera-new-post.html
Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
It is Really Pathetic how Some people put their "Complete Trust" in govt. to tell them How to run their lives. I believe some people are very comfortable with being told what is best for them and to Tax them to Death. Reminds me of lambs being led to the slaughter. There is an old quote as important now as in years past, "A people who give up Freedom for Safety deserve Neither".""
It's not pathetic in general, just to you apparently. There are troves of people that are far right and those that are far left then those who are somewhere around the middle. Thank somebody for the middle.
I haven't found anywhere the Government has told me that I cannot do something. In this discussion for example they haven't told me I cannot run a redlight they only say that if you do and you get caught you will get a ticket. You can do it as many times as you like and can afford (or survive) it. I personally would prefer you to NOT run the redlight and possibly endanger my life, the life of those I love and property in the process.
That blanket quote was old then and old now. Not that easy to be clean cut about it. Somewhere there's a balance between Order and Chaos.
I am happy that many people are fighting to save what is left of our rights and privacy and opposing all big brother tactics.
i don't like people who run red lights and the goof-***** who race thru them. Some will continue to do this no matter what. I do enjoy getting the green and run right up to the one's stiill going thru their redlight.
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St. Jude Donor '17
Nope, pathetic to many people and not only to some on this thread. Some seem to like govt. intrusion on their privacy and being told what is best for them to make them feel "safer".
I am happy that many people are fighting to save what is left of our rights and privacy and opposing all big brother tactics.
i don't like people who run red lights and the goof-***** who race thru them. Some will continue to do this no matter what. I do enjoy getting the green and run right up to the one's stiill going thru their redlight.
I am happy that many people are fighting to save what is left of our rights and privacy and opposing all big brother tactics.
i don't like people who run red lights and the goof-***** who race thru them. Some will continue to do this no matter what. I do enjoy getting the green and run right up to the one's stiill going thru their redlight.
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Nope, pathetic to many people and not only to some on this thread. Some seem to like govt. intrusion on their privacy and being told what is best for them to make them feel "safer".
I am happy that many people are fighting to save what is left of our rights and privacy and opposing all big brother tactics.
i don't like people who run red lights and the goof-***** who race thru them. Some will continue to do this no matter what. I do enjoy getting the green and run right up to the one's stiill going thru their redlight.
I am happy that many people are fighting to save what is left of our rights and privacy and opposing all big brother tactics.
i don't like people who run red lights and the goof-***** who race thru them. Some will continue to do this no matter what. I do enjoy getting the green and run right up to the one's stiill going thru their redlight.
Drifting
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The quote goes something like this, "A people who are dissatisfied with their govt. have a duty to start another that suits them better". A. Lincoln.
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Burning Brakes
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I'm all for making people more aware of traffic signals for a different reason. I used to commute to work by bicycle in San Jose and was hit by an uninsured girl in a SUV who "dropped her ipod" and ran a red light and hit me. Luckily I went over and not under. It was while I was in the emergency room that I decided to trade in my C6 for a Z06 because you never know when your number is up.
I have no sympathy for the OP here, obviously. Fishing around on the floor for a dropped object while driving through intersections is stupid and will get you or others killed.
I have no sympathy for the OP here, obviously. Fishing around on the floor for a dropped object while driving through intersections is stupid and will get you or others killed.
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best to play by the rules even if they suck
if one sprays their tag that's reverse deception by citizen people.Was reading Aug 6 USA Today Across the USA. It said in the News from Md that "Police can scan a license plate and check it against a database of stolen vehicles". That said, police perhaps could not scan a sprayed tag (lets say say the spray works). And if I detected a malfunction while scanning, I'd be hot to trot to check that vehicle out to investigate further. And if it was determined that the tag was altered it could qualify as fraudulent intent in possession of tag/plate.
$270 fine. And wait, that's not all...that's the 1996 price.
That article stated the network linked to state law enforcement will be extended to local jurisdictions noting that the vehicle theft rate has decreased 36% over the last 3 yrs w/the system.
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Pensions and unions will destroy states and municipalities just as they destroyed American business. The collapse is without question inevitable and coming a heck of a lot quicker then most expected.
The red light cameras are not only a shameful way of collecting money they are extremely dangerous with many slamming on their brakes in fear of a $100 or more ticket. It is a disgrace how government has exploited technology and it's citizenry.
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On July 16 2007 at 12:45pm I got a speed camera ticket in Manchester UK.... why do I remember the date and time, because it cost me $600.00! 
I was late for a flight and going into the airport I was travelling at 60KPH when the posted speed was 30KPH. The fines were (converted to US$):
Speeding $250.00
Travelling in excess of 20 KPH over the limit $200.00
Manchester City surcharge $100.00
Hertz Rental Car administrative fee $50.00
I could not even dispute the ticket, Hertz paid it and charged the $600.00 to my AMEX.
I was late for a flight and going into the airport I was travelling at 60KPH when the posted speed was 30KPH. The fines were (converted to US$):
Speeding $250.00
Travelling in excess of 20 KPH over the limit $200.00
Manchester City surcharge $100.00
Hertz Rental Car administrative fee $50.00
I could not even dispute the ticket, Hertz paid it and charged the $600.00 to my AMEX.
Melting Slicks
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From: Sarasota Florida
Red light cameras are installed by private companies that get a sizable cut of the fine. The municipality gets the rest. It's nothing more than a way to generate money. I'm no fan of the "Big Brother" aspects of government watching us. Hmmm, sounds a bit paranoid. Anyway, I think red light cameras add a new danger in that some idiots will stop on yellow rather than risk getting caught on camera.