SO WHERE does this thing go,how is it installed and what do you do with the oil it picks up???
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It bolts to the front of your block with supplied hardware. It sits just in front of the fuel rail cover on the passenger side. It is plumbed in to the PCV and the intake. Most owners will empty the can when they perform an oil change. Put the oil where ever you put your used oil for recycling.
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The installation for an LS-3 motor is a little more challenging because they changed the intake by creating a large box where the catch-can was being installed on the LS-2's. Elite Engineering does not have a fix for this, however another contributor to this forum created an installation procedure for the LS-3. Check the Tech section for detail (complete with pictures). Elite needs to change the bracket so it will fit in the LS-3 better but has not come up with a new design yet.
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The installation for an LS-3 motor is a little more challenging because they changed the intake by creating a large box where the catch-can was being installed on the LS-2's. Elite Engineering does not have a fix for this, however another contributor to this forum created an installation procedure for the LS-3. Check the Tech section for detail (complete with pictures). Elite needs to change the bracket so it will fit in the LS-3 better but has not come up with a new design yet.
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As noted with the advent of the LS3 came a Helmholtz resonator box. The purpose of the box is to quiet intake noise. The catch can mounts on the passenger side of the block in the space where the helmholtz resonator box is located. However, the Elite catch can will fit in the space between the back side of the resonator and the front of the block but it will take a little more finessing. No "redesign" is needed but some patience during the install. The can will fit in the existing space and I have talked several owners through the install. It will generally involve loosening the mouted intake bridge which also holds the Helmholtz resonator and moving it slightly forward during the install but everything can tighten back down in place and fit together.
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As noted with the advent of the LS3 came a Helmholtz resonator box. The purpose of the box is to quiet intake noise. The catch can mounts on the passenger side of the block in the space where the helmholtz resonator box is located. However, the Elite catch can will fit in the space between the back side of the resonator and the front of the block but it will take a little more finessing. No "redesign" is needed but some patience during the install. The can will fit in the existing space and I have talked several owners through the install. It will generally involve loosening the mouted intake bridge which also holds the Helmholtz resonator and moving it slightly forward during the install but everything can tighten back down in place and fit together.
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No, it absolutely should not void your warranty. The likely worst case scenario is that you take your car to the dealership for repairs and an underinformed dealer service department asks you to return the car to stock so that they can duplicate the issue without the can in place. Little is going to outright "void" your factory warranty and the cause of the problem would need to be directly related to the installation of the catch can. All a catch can is is a can and two rubber tubes installed in between the factory PCV and intake manifold to trap oil rich vapor. You are not making any modifications to OEM systems or removing anything in the way of controls or safeguards installed by the factory. It is easily reversible.
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I had the Elite on my old LS2 GTO, it definitely collected oil, but Im kinda with so what guy. If there was a real issue, wouldnt have GM made these cans part of the design?
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Back when I was looking for my can I was PM'd by alot of guys warning me about the Elite's bracket fitting the LS7....I ended up getting mine from from CCA (wilfulone). It fit nearly perfectly. I did have to slightly bend it so I could mount where I wanted it. Those guys at Elite should make it right because all the PM's I got stated they were initially designed for LS2's. These things are also subject to Corvette tax....so they ain't cheap....
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I was thinking this thread was same as the one I had post how the catch can works.....there is another thread which also has good explanation there....it also contains pics w/engine NOT having one after 100+k miles and one with....big difference. I was not the one who posted the pics but were contributed by another member. I think it was in Z06 thread however. I tried to make it very easy to understand....opinions differ....I just jnow that oil will end up in the intake and I do NOT want oil in my intake so I use one. It will occur with just about any engine. It's a natural occurance. And I do admit if it was a big problem I do think GM would install them from factory. My can (on a newer LS7) DOES catch oil. It did so on my LS3 as well.
I reccomend if you have a LS7 or LS3 to get one from CCA if that's what your planning. If LS2 then Elite or CCA. Elite's (bracket) is designed for LS2 and is a problem for any other app according to multiple PM's I recd from other members. . Tim
I reccomend if you have a LS7 or LS3 to get one from CCA if that's what your planning. If LS2 then Elite or CCA. Elite's (bracket) is designed for LS2 and is a problem for any other app according to multiple PM's I recd from other members. . Tim
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Here's some pics of my install on my GS. It is the Elite can. As Paul stated, the resonator box is in the way, but the can will still fit. There is enough clearance under the fuel rail cover to make it work. Just a little more inconvenient to check the oil in the can.
As you can see, the can will not fit with the supplied spacer because of the resonator box
But it will fit without the spacer
And fits just under the fuel rail cover with no issues
I highly recommend getting one from Paul (Talon 90). He is great to work with and will help you any way he can.
Send me a PM if you get his can and I'll tell you how I did mine if you need assistance.
Billy
As you can see, the can will not fit with the supplied spacer because of the resonator box
But it will fit without the spacer
And fits just under the fuel rail cover with no issues
I highly recommend getting one from Paul (Talon 90). He is great to work with and will help you any way he can.
Send me a PM if you get his can and I'll tell you how I did mine if you need assistance.
Billy
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I have a street driven mildly modified LS2 and at my first oil change (with the cach can) it collected about 1/4 of the can in oil. Can was from CCA so you know how tall it is. Easy install too.
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I like the fact that the fuel rail cover partially hides the can. Since the left cover is the easier of the two covers to remove, checking the can shouldn't be much of a hassle, IMHO.
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I was thinking this thread was same as the one I had post how the catch can works.....there is another thread which also has good explanation there....it also contains pics w/engine NOT having one after 100+k miles and one with....big difference. I was not the one who posted the pics but were contributed by another member. I think it was in Z06 thread however. I tried to make it very easy to understand....opinions differ....I just jnow that oil will end up in the intake and I do NOT want oil in my intake so I use one. It will occur with just about any engine. It's a natural occurance. And I do admit if it was a big problem I do think GM would install them from factory. My can (on a newer LS7) DOES catch oil. It did so on my LS3 as well.
I reccomend if you have a LS7 or LS3 to get one from CCA if that's what your planning. If LS2 then Elite or CCA. Elite's (bracket) is designed for LS2 and is a problem for any other app according to multiple PM's I recd from other members. . Tim
I reccomend if you have a LS7 or LS3 to get one from CCA if that's what your planning. If LS2 then Elite or CCA. Elite's (bracket) is designed for LS2 and is a problem for any other app according to multiple PM's I recd from other members. . Tim
They are good to have, just to keep oil out of where it is not supposed to be. Is your car going to blow up if you don't have one...probably not.and I would agree, if for every day street use it was a problem not having a catch-can, GM would have designed the PCV system differently. Given that, it certainly does not hurt to have them either.
IMO, they are cheap, easy/quick install and help keep your intake clean, whether you drive on the street or track.
I am getting one for my LS7. I had one on my C5 and it did collect oil, it would be just about a 1/4 full each time I went to change my oil.
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GEEZE, I was up half the night looking for Billy's excellent post on the installation for the LS-3 motors, finally found it this morning only to find he came in and posted it. Good job though Billy, one question I have is how is it for emptying the reservoir? Looks like a fuel rail removal and then removing the catch can by its two mount screws so the connection hoses would have to be long enough to move the can round to take the bottom off. I'll be installing mine this weekend. Spin's article on the engine work he did (found by searching for this topic in the tech section) convinced me this needs to be done. The pistons looked pretty dirty and that can come from a couple of places, oil being one of them, not so sure but possibly the use of second tier gasolines too. I started the installation some time ago and when I pulled the hoses off the PCV valve I did not find any oil in the hose or fitting but that doesn't really mean anything especially after seeing the pic's. I suggest a scheduled use of Techron to help keep things clean if using cheap premium fuels.