Got a ticket while being paced?!?
Burning Brakes
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From: Amelia Island,FL ______ or DFW _________ Sold my 05 MS Coupe ____ bought 08 Vert Blk/JSB, 3LT, F55
Damn, it's not about you being 26 or having a corvette. I know the area well and you were driving too fast. The reason you weren't arrested is that speeding, alone, in Texas is not an arrestable offense. That being said, if the officer felt like you needed to go to jail for speeding and other violations your butt would be sitting in Lew Sterett (Dallas County Jail) and I can assure you it is not a place you want to be.
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Instructor
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From: TX
look at some of the prior post i did mention he came to the car screamed for me to turn off the vehilce and get out of the car. And i don't know what you are talking about but 35E is a pretty damn straight road. so is 114 and 161 and 35W and 820N and 820S and 183. what are you talking about? Hell even 75 in a straigh shot to collin.
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St. Jude Donor '12
Typical b.s., "the officer was not being honest". What a bunch of c$#p. Like someone else already said, put your big boy pants on and take responsibility for YOUR actions. We know its not your fault, blame your problems on someone else! Get a life!
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Damn, it's not about you being 26 or having a corvette. I know the area well and you were driving too fast. The reason you weren't arrested is that speeding, alone, in Texas is not an arrestable offense. That being said, if the officer felt like you needed to go to jail for speeding and other violations your butt would be sitting in Lew Sterett (Dallas County Jail) and I can assure you it is not a place you want to be.
Burning Brakes
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From: Amelia Island,FL ______ or DFW _________ Sold my 05 MS Coupe ____ bought 08 Vert Blk/JSB, 3LT, F55
Hard head what did I say? Maybe if I said it slower. Speeding, alone, in Texas is NOT an arrestable offense...
There is a simple solution for you. Don't speed and if you do, don't do it in Dallas or if you want a really good time and a really close encounter with Elrod in a 5x9 room for two, just give me a heads up that you are coming. I'll meet you at the city limits.
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If you were speeding you were wrong. It's that simple. It's just blowing smoke trying to blame the cop for something here. So you only like tickets when the police play by your rules? You know if you were wrong. You have the answer as to whether the fine is legit. Don't go through life covering up your mistakes with an attorney!
You like paying large sums of money to insurance companies?
Let me guess, you love paying taxes too.
I'm sure your squeeky clean and never did anything wrong, but if you did you would raise your hand and say I'm guilty here's my fine. Yeah right.
Just for the record, I don't agree with everything the OP said either. Is he whinning, yes, but that doesn't mean he should just pay the fine. The speed limits in many states are posted way too low anyway. I was on a 4 lane highway yesterday with a posted speed of 55.
If you were speeding you were wrong. It's that simple. It's just blowing smoke trying to blame the cop for something here. So you only like tickets when the police play by your rules? You know if you were wrong. You have the answer as to whether the fine is legit. Don't go through life covering up your mistakes with an attorney!
You like paying large sums of money to insurance companies?
Let me guess, you love paying taxes too.
I'm sure your squeeky clean and never did anything wrong, but if you did you would raise your hand and say I'm guilty here's my fine. Yeah right.
Just for the record, I don't agree with everything the OP said either. Is he whinning, yes, but that doesn't mean he should just pay the fine. The speed limits in many states are posted way too low anyway. I was on a 4 lane highway yesterday with a posted speed of 55.
Last edited by STEVE MC; May 31, 2011 at 09:51 PM.
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Racer
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[QUOTE=STEVE MC;1577759981]
You like paying large sums of money to insurance companies?
Let me guess, you love paying taxes too.
I'm sure your squeeky clean and never did anything wrong, but if you did you would raise your hand and say I'm guilty here's my fine. Yeah right.
Just for the record, I don't agree with everything the OP said either. Is he whinning, yes, but that doesn't mean he should just pay the fine. The speed limits in many states are posted too low anyway. I was on a 4 lane highway yesterday with a posted speed of 55.
Nobody likes getting caught at stuff. I hate taxes. But I don't cheat. I do lots of crazy ****. When I'm wrong I don't try and play games. That's all.
You like paying large sums of money to insurance companies?
Let me guess, you love paying taxes too.
I'm sure your squeeky clean and never did anything wrong, but if you did you would raise your hand and say I'm guilty here's my fine. Yeah right.
Just for the record, I don't agree with everything the OP said either. Is he whinning, yes, but that doesn't mean he should just pay the fine. The speed limits in many states are posted too low anyway. I was on a 4 lane highway yesterday with a posted speed of 55.
Le Mans Master
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look at some of the prior post i did mention he came to the car screamed for me to turn off the vehilce and get out of the car. And i don't know what you are talking about but 35E is a pretty damn straight road. so is 114 and 161 and 35W and 820N and 820S and 183. what are you talking about? Hell even 75 in a straigh shot to collin.
35E around the area you mentioned before is not exactly straight. However straight does not have anything to do with it. That area is dense traffic and 90+ MPH exposed other drivers to danger.
Finally, you got CAUGHT. Handle the ticket how you see fit, but calling the LEO a liar is needless. Man up.
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Hope this helps with your pacing question. Depending on traffic or type of roadway pacing can be done from the blind spot, hiding behind other vehicles or odometer. The odometer method is done by first staying anywhere from about 3/4 to 2/10 behind a target vehicle. The officer will zero out his odometer when the target vehicle passes something such as a curve, bridge, shawdow, tree or what ever. Then the officer will hold his speed at a constant speed, noting his odometer when he hits the same spot. That tells him how far he is behind the target vehicle. Next the officer will do this again at another spot on the roadway. Holding his speed and checking his odometer again when he hits that spot. If the officer's odometer shows that the target vehicle is closer than before then the vehicle is going slower than the officer, if it is greater then the target vehicle is going faster than the officer, if the same their speed is the same. From an officer's view this is a good way to pace someone without them seeing you.
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From: Surprise Arizona
I once got clocked doing 102 in a 65 zone years ago. In the dark, no traffic. Saw the cop as I drew close to him. I knew I was busted immediately so I was actually pulled over and stopped by the time he pulled out of his "spot".
He was very thankful for my quick reaction he claimed...lol.
He was a pretty young officer and said since he didn't have to chase after me at those speeds, he would only write me up for 20 over. And that's what he did.
As a grown man, I knew I was wrong and very lucky in more than one way.
I took my medicine and walked into the municipal building the next day and payed my dues.
Pay your fine, son. You broke the law. Be thankful he didn't catch you going faster. Be more thankful nobody, yourself incuded, got injured or worse.
He was very thankful for my quick reaction he claimed...lol.
He was a pretty young officer and said since he didn't have to chase after me at those speeds, he would only write me up for 20 over. And that's what he did.
As a grown man, I knew I was wrong and very lucky in more than one way.
I took my medicine and walked into the municipal building the next day and payed my dues.
Pay your fine, son. You broke the law. Be thankful he didn't catch you going faster. Be more thankful nobody, yourself incuded, got injured or worse.
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St. Jude Donor '12
Hope this helps with your pacing question. Depending on traffic or type of roadway pacing can be done from the blind spot, hiding behind other vehicles or odometer. The odometer method is done by first staying anywhere from about 3/4 to 2/10 behind a target vehicle. The officer will zero out his odometer when the target vehicle passes something such as a curve, bridge, shawdow, tree or what ever. Then the officer will hold his speed at a constant speed, noting his odometer when he hits the same spot. That tells him how far he is behind the target vehicle. Next the officer will do this again at another spot on the roadway. Holding his speed and checking his odometer again when he hits that spot. If the officer's odometer shows that the target vehicle is closer than before then the vehicle is going slower than the officer, if it is greater then the target vehicle is going faster than the officer, if the same their speed is the same. From an officer's view this is a good way to pace someone without them seeing you.
Geo, you must be from the old school like me. used to use this method all the time, especially when traffic was fairly light. I assume we worked for the same agency as no one else knew how to do it!
Never lost a case, had to explain it a few times over to the judge to they'd understand but it was pretty much irrefutable. Pacing for 10 miles was not unheard of, fun times!
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Geo, you must be from the old school like me. used to use this method all the time, especially when traffic was fairly light. I assume we worked for the same agency as no one else knew how to do it!
Never lost a case, had to explain it a few times over to the judge to they'd understand but it was pretty much irrefutable. Pacing for 10 miles was not unheard of, fun times!
Never lost a case, had to explain it a few times over to the judge to they'd understand but it was pretty much irrefutable. Pacing for 10 miles was not unheard of, fun times!
Heel & Toe
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From: Reno NV
I am surprised your questioning the "pacing"
that is normal modus operandus in California. & I'm from Nevada
I have been stopped a bunch of times and they are always pacing on the freeway's.
BTW....at least out West the cops are trained and can gauge your speed by looking at you, and they get it right!
I most always fight tickets and get them lowered not dismissed.
If I was in your shoes....at least out West I would be begging not to get a reckless driveing ticket.
I doubt paying a lawyer would get you off totally, but maybe thats how things roll in Texas.
that is normal modus operandus in California. & I'm from Nevada
I have been stopped a bunch of times and they are always pacing on the freeway's.
BTW....at least out West the cops are trained and can gauge your speed by looking at you, and they get it right!
I most always fight tickets and get them lowered not dismissed.
If I was in your shoes....at least out West I would be begging not to get a reckless driveing ticket.
I doubt paying a lawyer would get you off totally, but maybe thats how things roll in Texas.
Racer
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From: Riverside CA
We all mess up at times. I really like the idea of paying the fine and going to traffic school to avoid points. That's a fair solution. Trying to discredit a cop that was doing his job really sucks. Especially if you really were speeding. The world is full of cheesy game players. I will never play the game that way. I believe I have had more success in my life playing the game my way.
Safety Car
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From: Atlanta GA
Wow, you're a superspeeder. According to Georgia state laws you would have been taken to jail, given a ticket for $1,000 and a fine for up to $10k and your car impounded, posssibly crushed for going over 88mph. Troofs.
Racer
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From: Riverside CA
Yeah Georgia is scary. I have two battery mfg plants in Augusta. I got stopped on I20 between Atlanta and Augusta. I was doing 90. I was screamed at. I instantly admitted I was wrong. He wrote me for 80 and didn't impound the car. One of my friends was not so lucky. He ended up in jail for a night and paid 1000's. I20 scares the crap out of me.