Keyless Start
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From: Houston, TX
Originally Posted by SAXN8R
Jim, I spoke with Dave Hill about this. He said that the only reason they did this was to annoy Jim Schindler and all of his croanies! 
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Like I don't get enough of that every Saturday in person
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Maybe then it's time to check out an automatic. I don't think I would like this, put it in reverse to turn off the car thing. It seems pretty stupid to me.
I'd rather use a key to start the car anyway. GM is acting like using a key is hard work or something. You still have to have the thing with you, so other than putting the key in the ignition and twitsting it, what do you save?
I'd rather use a key to start the car anyway. GM is acting like using a key is hard work or something. You still have to have the thing with you, so other than putting the key in the ignition and twitsting it, what do you save?
Melting Slicks
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From: not speeding just flying low
Originally Posted by jschindler
Where the hell did you come from? Are you here just to annoy me?
Like I don't get enough of that every Saturday in person
Like I don't get enough of that every Saturday in person
LOL,
Troy put me in this section just to annoy you!
I have been lurking and drooling in this section for a while.
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From: Richmond Ca
Originally Posted by jimman
In 50 years of driving, never had to use rev before and never had any problems. So my question is why and besides reverse on the C5 is a bitch to get into.
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Originally Posted by Shylor
Maybe then it's time to check out an automatic. I don't think I would like this, put it in reverse to turn off the car thing. It seems pretty stupid to me.
I'd rather use a key to start the car anyway. GM is acting like using a key is hard work or something. You still have to have the thing with you, so other than putting the key in the ignition and twitsting it, what do you save?
I'd rather use a key to start the car anyway. GM is acting like using a key is hard work or something. You still have to have the thing with you, so other than putting the key in the ignition and twitsting it, what do you save?
I'm with you. Sounds like added complexity just to be different. Some more new tech (i.e. electronic column lock) to cause problems down the line.
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From: Virginia
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Originally Posted by Shylor
I'd rather use a key to start the car anyway. GM is acting like using a key is hard work or something. You still have to have the thing with you, so other than putting the key in the ignition and twitsting it, what do you save?
No fumbling for your key (for those with big pockets or who keep their key in their purse.)
Competition is doing it.
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From: Binghamton NY
Originally Posted by jschindler
Scissors - we all know how passionate you are about this issue. But if this is why they are doing it, how come they didn't feel the need to have this "feature" on the C5's? And why does NO other car manufacturer force you to do this.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Olney MD
I think it was Car and Driver reported that you cannot shut off the engine withoug putting it in reverse. This is to avoid shutting off by accident while moving and having the column lock. We'll just wait until someone actually has a C6 to know for sure.
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I thought it would only shut off in Reverse. Where's the source on this? Where's that guy with the manual?
I want answers.
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I want the TRUTH!
I want answers.
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Originally Posted by Lazerwolfe
I thought it would only shut off in Reverse. Where's the source on this? Where's that guy with the manual?
I want answers.
I think I'm entitled.
I want the TRUTH!
I want answers.
I think I'm entitled.
I want the TRUTH!
No word on if you can turn off the engine while moving and, if so, what the max speed is.
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From: Imperial Beach CA
Originally Posted by wwashing
Reverse is the safest gear to leave the car parked in. The reverse gear is square cut, the other gears are not and easier to slip out of.
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From: Greenville SC
You've NEVER had to use Reverse?
Originally Posted by jimman
In 50 years of driving, never had to use rev before and never had any problems. So my question is why and besides reverse on the C5 is a bitch to get into.
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From: Richmond Ca
Originally Posted by jimman
Like I said 50 years with using 1st gear and no problems. Never heard of a transmission slipping out of gear while parked.
So do you think they picked reverse just to irk everybody?
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From: Central Coast CA
The Toyota Prius uses this keyless technology too. I'm still not happy about it.
What happens if you leave the FOB in the car and walk away, can someone else get in your car or does the car let you know?
I still would like to know the reason GM picked reverse to turn off the manual trans power. It it more natural for a person to put the car in 1st after shutting down the engine because it usually is in 1st at that time.
What happens if you leave the FOB in the car and walk away, can someone else get in your car or does the car let you know?
I still would like to know the reason GM picked reverse to turn off the manual trans power. It it more natural for a person to put the car in 1st after shutting down the engine because it usually is in 1st at that time.
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From: Nashua NH
Originally Posted by Shylor
I'm confused as to why you have to leave the car in reverse with the 6 speed on the new C6 keyless start system. I mean, why reverse? That will be so hard to get used to.
I have laugh when they say they listened to people's complaints and made the car better. Hope they are listening to this in time to do something for next year's Z06.