Keyless Start
Heel & Toe
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From: Jacksonville FL
Originally Posted by Chief Pontiac
If you have a 6-speed you will be putting it in gear before you shut it off anyway right?
By putting the manual trans in reverse its the only way to turn off the ignition.This is to prevent accidental shutdown(locking the steering column) while driving.
By putting the manual trans in reverse its the only way to turn off the ignition.This is to prevent accidental shutdown(locking the steering column) while driving.
I know your comment is 100% correct, but could you explain why reverse gear has something to do with the steering column????
Is the column lock problem solved with the C6????
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From: McKinney TX
St. Jude Donor '21-'22-'23-'24
Originally Posted by glassfan
I know your comment is 100% correct, but could you explain why reverse gear has something to do with the steering column????
Is the column lock problem solved with the C6????
Is the column lock problem solved with the C6????
Le Mans Master
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From: Imperial Beach CA
Originally Posted by wwashing
I'd suggest that your personal experience is anecdotal and does not represent a valid statistical sampling!
So do you think they picked reverse just to irk everybody?
So do you think they picked reverse just to irk everybody?
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From: Virginia
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St. Jude's Donor '06
Originally Posted by Shylor
And that means what?
On the flip side taller gears, those which take fewer input revolutions per output revolution, result in less torque multiplication in exchange for output RPMs. These gears trade acceleration for speed capability.
In manual transmission C6es the reverse gear is the shortest gear of all. This makes it the easiest gear for the engine to use to turn the wheels. This also means that it's the hardest gear for an outside force to use to turn the engine, overcome the compression, and thus move the car. This is why shorter gears give the best engine braking: because gearing reverses when the input and output reverse. 9:1 when the engine turns the wheels becomes 1:9 when the wheels try to turn the engine.
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From: I am Jack's out-dated Fight Club reference. MD
Why are people complaining about the Vette using new technologies? If we went by you guys, we'd all still be using cassettes because you're afraid of those new fangled "CDs."
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From: Richmond Ca
Originally Posted by Lazerwolfe
Why are people complaining about the Vette using new technologies? If we went by you guys, we'd all still be using cassettes because you're afraid of those new fangled "CDs."
What is the improvement of the push button over the key?
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Originally Posted by wwashing
What is the improvement of the push button over the key?
I'll give it a try. Like I have a choice?
Last edited by John George; Aug 10, 2004 at 03:01 PM.
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From: central FL, near the beach.
the main advantage to keyless start?
i've had this feature for 29 years on my 61. it was standard on all 55-57 chevys too.
OK here it is, drumroll please!
I pull up to my house and i can hand my passenger my keys, and she can hop out and unlock the house door while i park.
Obviously you all have worked around this minor inconvenience, and i'm sure you will chime with clever solutions.
i've had this feature for 29 years on my 61. it was standard on all 55-57 chevys too.
OK here it is, drumroll please!
I pull up to my house and i can hand my passenger my keys, and she can hop out and unlock the house door while i park.
Obviously you all have worked around this minor inconvenience, and i'm sure you will chime with clever solutions.
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From: Imperial Beach CA
Originally Posted by Matt Gruber
the main advantage to keyless start?
i've had this feature for 29 years on my 61. it was standard on all 55-57 chevys too.
OK here it is, drumroll please!
I pull up to my house and i can hand my passenger my keys, and she can hop out and unlock the house door while i park.
Obviously you all have worked around this minor inconvenience, and i'm sure you will chime with clever solutions.
i've had this feature for 29 years on my 61. it was standard on all 55-57 chevys too.
OK here it is, drumroll please!
I pull up to my house and i can hand my passenger my keys, and she can hop out and unlock the house door while i park.
Obviously you all have worked around this minor inconvenience, and i'm sure you will chime with clever solutions.
Instructor
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From: Edmond ok
>>I pull up to my house and i can hand my passenger my keys, and she can hop out and unlock the house door while i park.<<
I use my keyless entry (garage door opener) to get in our house.
I like the keyless idea and look forward to it in my next car.
That reminds me, I need to get a battery on way home tonight or I will be locked out of the house.
Beary
I use my keyless entry (garage door opener) to get in our house.
I like the keyless idea and look forward to it in my next car.
That reminds me, I need to get a battery on way home tonight or I will be locked out of the house.
Beary
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From: central FL, near the beach.
Originally Posted by Shylor
Not complaining the C6 using new technology, just wanted to know why reverse was used to turn off the ACCY power to shut the car off.
the C7 will surely imo have an OFF switch and a seperate LOCK switch.(and the c7 will cost $$$$$$$ more as a result
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Last edited by Matt Gruber; Aug 12, 2004 at 07:43 AM.
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From: I am Jack's out-dated Fight Club reference. MD
Originally Posted by wwashing
What is the improvement of the push button over the key?
First the Vette gets hosed for using old stuff (the Leaf Springs) which apparently work fine, and now it's hosed for using new stuff (push button start, door locks, et al.) because it'll be hard to break from the old pattern.
No one on here even has a C6 yet. It very well could turn out to be a nifty feature once it gets in the hands of people. But it (seems) like it's being ragged on just because people feel they won't be able to change old habits and put it in R instead of 1st despite the multiple warnings that will eventually get you to change anyway.
I could argue power windows are bad because I was so used to rotating the window lever that I don't think I'll ever get used to pushing a button down.
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From: Virginia
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Originally Posted by Shylor
Not complaining the C6 using new technology, just wanted to know why reverse was used to turn off the ACCY power to shut the car off.
Racer
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From: Sunnyvale CA
Originally Posted by Scissors
Pretty much eliminates the chance of locking your key in the car.
No fumbling for your key (for those with big pockets or who keep their key in their purse.)
Competition is doing it.
No fumbling for your key (for those with big pockets or who keep their key in their purse.)
Competition is doing it.