Are you kidding? What happens if you leave your key in your car? Same thing? This is such a non issue. I really don't understand all the complaining. It is MORE convenient, not less. If it bothers you SO MUCH, get a C5. There are great deals on them right now. Personally, you better get used to it. Keyless ignition will be on every car in a few years, cause it's actually cheaper to produce.

 

The slim metal object, usually attached to the FOB, used for accessing various features of a vehicle.

 

Simplicity?
Not having to re-key your ignition and doors when one or the other wears out?
Integration with the vehicle's security system?
Computer controlled starts, so the iginition isn't activated for too short or long a time?
Can't start the car when it's already started?
Shall I continue?

 

 

You are kidding right? Even a non-audiophile can hear the obvious improvement imparted by the lack of tape hiss alone?

 

I'm assuming then that you're not aware that, not only are CDs digital, but also that they completely cut off parts of the audible range and also parts of the inaudible range that affect the sound of the audible range.

 

If you remember back to the C3's with the "Reverse Lockout" feature, you will easily get used to the C6. I kinda like it myself...

 

This is how the C3s were designed. On my '70, the only way to get the key out of the ignition is to lock the Muncie 4-speed in reverse. I drive my '70 quite a bit, so it won't be that big of a change for me...I'll just have to get used to the 2 additional gears!!!

 

This may have been covered, but the reason for this feature is the federal regulation for steering column lock. The column will not lock if the car is not in reverse, therefore the car cannot be shutoff completely until reverse is selected. That's the deal. ...

 

Uh... Have you not been paying attention? There is no key with the C6.

 

Clearly you haven't been paying attention, because there is a key.

Try making sure you're right before you get snotty and wind up looking foolish.

Unless you honestly believe that the key fob somehow magically shrinks to fit into the keyhole above the rear license plate.

 

Power windows are a vast improvement over crank windows. It gives you control over the passenger window while driving. It allows you to safely control other than the driver's window and keep your attention on the road. You'll have to do better than that one.

 

Ok, I'll play. However, we have to get the issue straight. There are two points of argument here. My main point was "force of habit", as someone phrased it, is (to me) not a valid reason to knock the fact that the shifter has to be R in order not to drain the battery. Hence my example with power windows, which I still think is fair.

Guy 1: Power windows? Bah, why do we need something else, it's different from how I used to operate my old windows!
Guy 2: It's not that big a change. There's very little habit adjustment on your part.
Guy 1: Eh, I'm so used to rolling 'em up I'll just never adjust!
Guy 2: But, it's not going to be that hard to adjust...
Guy 1: Bah Humbug.

Replace power windows with the R-instead-of-1st issue and I think it's the same thing. It's also the same because the difference in action is so small. How hard is it to put it in R instead of 1st? It isn't. (You'll even be hassled by beeps and DIC warnings if you manage to forget.) How hard is it to push a button instead of spin a lever. It isn't.

Your point, however, is a tangent to mine. The CD example got the issue muddled, so that was a bad analogy on my part. I'm not saying R-instead-of-1st is superior technologically. I'm simply saying having to change an old habit is silly as a reason to not like it, especially considering the fact that plenty of people on here already were pro-reverse to begin with. It's not a huge paradigm shift.

And it's through all that jibber-jabber I just did that I don't have to point out a better example.

But hopefully I made my point clearer.

 

Whether those of us who actively "drive" our cars agree with it or not, you just have to believe that such passive arming features for cars are going to be near universal in the near future. "Civilian" consumers look on such things as being hi-tech (like the latest geekazoid PDA accessory) and, as such, very desirable. I suspect the above assertion about cost is valid as well. If so, then you KNOW Detroit will be on it like a coat of paint in their neverending quest to cut costs.

As many others have said, I really don't see the use of this fob to be a big deal. You get used to things pretty quickly. When I first got my Audi S4, I found the trip computer pretty mystifying. Now it is almost comically simple compared to all of the programmable options that our C6's will have. But we'll get used to all of them too.

 

Those sound like good reasons to me.

 

Wow you a$$ hole; I never resorted to name calling, so you one-upped me there. I'll tell you where you can stick you key. I think I'm done with this forum now. I hope everyone out there, other than yourself really enjoys their cars and has the best of luck in the ordering process. *****.

 

Uh oh.

 

Or you could have just admitted to being wrong.

And I never called you any names. I simply pointed out how rude you were.

 

You guys are arguing over 1st and reverse, but what about us folks that dont park our cars in gear?

 

If you've got a manual tranny, you've got to leave it in reverse to get out of ACC mode and prevent battery drain. However, if you have an auto., PARK is still okay, AFAIK.