Crazy Cowboy

I personally like the 03 Supercharged Cobras. I'd have to say with the exception of the 03 six speed Saleens it's the nicest Mustang on the road. After reading your thread about the GT500 stealing sales I had to post my opinion.... I had a friend of mine with a 493 RWHP '03 Cobra which I really liked, he drove my C5 which was making 413 RWHP at the time and wound up selling his car within a month to buy a C5! He actually begged me to sell him mine - but it wasn't for sale at the time.

I've had 3 Mustangs and, honestly, there is NO comparison in the cars. I love the way they sound, the supercharged Cobras are fast and tough looking.... but.... The Corvette just feels a lot more sporty, almost exotic when driving it compared to a Mustang. Sits lower, more aggressive looking. The Mustang may have more HP in the GT but I'll wait to see how it compares in straight line and handling times compared to a C6 (not a Z06). I'd almost bet it loses. It will definately be no comparison in performance to the Z06 IMHO... Time will tell. I can't be certain until they are both out on the road and tests are done.

Not trying to bash the Mustang, I like them, but it's no Vette on any day of the year. I also don't like the new retro look at all Just my .02

6speedC6

Check my SIg

So I'll keep the

88BlackZ-51

what do u like better the vette or the stang? and what is quicker?

99GTvert

It is amazing to me how someone who is SO uninformed can make themselves look SO stupid and at the same time be SO sure of themselves. The 03/04 cobras were rated at 390hp. If you knew how to spot the differences between years of cobras I would imagine you would know this. Also if you knew anything about the car you would know that most dyno in the 370-380 range. Also there was no 01 Cobra r it was a 00. I am personally dissappointed with the new GT500 but I can't wait until you run into a pullied one in your new Z and get your *** handed to you.

Guru_4_hire

I find the new mustang interior tacky. I mean just ugly. You cant drive a fast car and retch at the same time.

Past that nicole doesnt like the way they look. And I am not a fan of ford engines. I mean hello welcome to 1993 ford.

I will stick to my 98 trans am. If I want a straight axle car, I will just mod my T/A.

6speedC6

I find them too be totally different. Right now the Cobra is quicker. I drive the Corvette more then the cobra. I truely do like both. The corvette is a smooth, good handling/riding sports car. Cobra feels more of a harsh riding muscle car.

99GTvert

Yeah I agree about the interiors but have you seen the one on the GT500. It is a lot nicer than the base and gt models. It has a leather covered dash and you can change the colors of the gauges. Hopefully the new ZO6 will have a little bit nicer interior than the C6 though.

6speedC6

TRR

Amen Bro


TRR

Crushinator

You know, I was thinking the same thing. When I first typed '00 Cobra R, something didn't look right so I changed it to '01. My bad. He was probably just following my lead. Thanks for correcting that. Seriously though, do you think a pulley alone will be enough to catapult the Gt500 ahead of the Z06? Can a pulley really make that much of a difference? Will it still be safe?

SellingBMWforC6

C&D's 4.0 and 12.5 were WAG's. Let's wait and see what actual test data reflects. My guess is that these times are a little generous given the Pony's plumpness.

roushraven

Short answer to all of your questions is yes. Anything can be made to go fast and the SGT500 should be just as easy to modify to be a fast accelerator as the current SVT Cobra. Depending on the size of pulley used the current Cobra can gain as much as 60rwhp alone with no other modifications. It will only be safe however with a tune to support the power increase.

As for the SGT500, until the car actually hits the streets or actual Ford information on the production car is released the size of pulley needed is the question.

Everyone here knows that it will take a crap load more of mods to make that car truly competitive with the stock C6-Z06 however that is of little to no concern to the target buyer of the SGT500.

-RR

99GTvert

Yes and no. I say yes because pullied 03/04 cobras have been putting down a little over 500 at the wheels with nothing but a pulley and a good tune. This with more displacement and much better heads it should do even better. I would bet that with a smaller blower pulley, bigger crank pulley, full exhaust, drop in air filter, and a good tune this car will put down 600+rwhp. If they used the whipple supercharger like the one on the GT (like they should have and is the reason I am not buying one) that number would jump up to 700+. The reason I say no though is because we don't know that pulley swaps will be as easy as they were with the previous cobra. This blower uses a clutch type pulley like the AMG's use. This was due to many cobra owners swapping pulleys and then they would bring there car in for "the tick" and their warranty would be denied.

bunk22

I beg to differ, I just came from a modified 03 Cobra and it handled well for what it was, a modern day muscle car. It was easy to mod and fast as hell in a straight line. I firmly believe the new C6 is overall the better car but the Cobra isn't a bad handler at all. The new GT500 will most likely be a strong step above the current car.

OldZR-1Guy

I just read in Car & Driver that the GT500 weighs 3800+ lbs. Holy crap! Why is this car so heavy? What is it, armor plated? I agree that the car should be very fast for the money but it gets easier to see why the Corvette engineers went with the all aluminum small block. The LS7 must weigh almost 200 lbs. less than the boat anchor in the Mustang.

99GTvert

That's what a lot of people (cough corvette owners cough) don't understand. They can sit back and tell you all day that the corvette will handle better than a cobra. And they are right. But how many of them drive their car to such limits that the cobra will not be able to keep up. Not many.

RonnieSVT

Im not a quarter mile expert ( once ran 13.0@130 with a 2.5 60 ft )

That was on 17 inch 275 GoodYear GSCs on a 642 rwhp 94z28!

But I really think that the better driver is going to win even GT500 Vs c6 zo6.

I seen lots of people who run no better than 13.0s in the old Z06s
and with the new car I doubt they do any better than low to High 12s.

If you cant hook when the light turns green, and you granny shift
then the race is lost.

500 HP is alot of power for most people so they better lean how to drive it before getting spanked by a slower car.

Crushinator

I don't think it's a question of the cars limit, but how the car feels doing somwhat aggressive manuevers or even daily driving for that matter. I went from an '02 Z06 to an '01 WS6 Trans Am a couple years ago. The WS6 is "supposed" to be a nice handling car...and on paper it should be. But in comparison to my previous Z06, it felt like a school bus. Could I have kept up with someone in a Z06 driving 50%? Sure, but the difference is, the guy in the Z06 is sitting comfortably in his car going around a turn a 70 MPH, while I'm being pushed and pulled form every angle inside the WS6 taking the same turn at the same speed. There is more to the handling of a car than "at the limit".

427CPE

I went to a Corvette event with about 250 Vettes, ranging from
13.3@108 C5Z's to 14.0@103 C6s. Nearly 100% of these Vettes were running 13s. I just don't see a half-descent driver in a GT500 having a problem with the Vette crowd.

DRIVER SKILL DOES MATTER and speaking of WEIGHT, a lot of the Vette drivers could gain ET by losing some.

LoganVette

I think the best comparison HERE is between the base C6 and the GT(not that the cars really compare... they are completely different cars); the new Z06 is in it's own league.

Also, I seriously doubt the GT will affect Vette sales, reason being, Ford had a hard enough time selling the 03-04 Cobras. It's been said already that most Mustang enthusiasts are young and can't really afford a $40K car.

I love my 03 Cobra, it's by far the fastest car I've ever owned/driven, and even though I think the GT is a great car... it's just not enough of an improvement over my current car to justify buying one.

Needless to say, my next car WILL be another Vette; probably a C6 (yes I can afford one, but the Z06 is a bit out of my price range).