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So some of you are saying that if I buy a S/C kit for my C6Z and leave the engine (or short block) stock is gonna break??? if so, why there are some kits available for the C6Z??? none of them include a new block, right???
So some of you are saying that if I buy a S/C kit for my C6Z and leave the engine (or short block) stock is gonna break??? if so, why there are some kits available for the C6Z??? none of them include a new block, right???
They are talking about making 900+ rwhp and then saying the stock block isnt the best to build around.
So some of you are saying that if I buy a S/C kit for my C6Z and leave the engine (or short block) stock is gonna break??? if so, why there are some kits available for the C6Z??? none of them include a new block, right???
I'm making 706 RWHP and running 9.50's on my stock engine.
8 psi boost and methanol injection. So far no problems
cool... since when you have the kit in your car? what are you guys think about a C6Z with a cam, headers, FAST intake and a regular S/C kit on it??? it will be around 650 - 700 whp, right? it will be safe for the engine? long term I mean? The methanol is a MOST for that combo (stock kit psi)?
Last edited by webcarconnection; Jan 4, 2010 at 05:18 PM.
cool... since when you have the kit in your car? what are you guys think about a C6Z with a cam, headers, FAST intake and a regular S/C kit on it??? it will be around 650 - 700 whp, right? it will be safe for the engine? long term I mean? The methanol is a MOST for that combo (stock kit psi)?
This is really a whole different thread
We have a ProCharger kit we do with headers, blower cam, and D-1SC that makes 680-700 rwhp and has been extremely durable for us. We have had several customers run this combo at the TxMile (long duration WOT pulls) and zero issues. Shoot me a email or PM if you want a price on the package. I can even help you with a startup tune that should get you very close...
The C6Z is stock with the standar Procharger Kit (590 whp) the intercooler is just where the kit provide to be... A/R 11.2 all the way up, its been tune by my tuner, a EFI live certificed tuner
Yes we have two of these going together for LS7 C6 Z06's.
There are a few odds and ends but nothing huge. Shoot me an email if you are interested in a turn key short or long block.
Seeing how you are doing a couple Zs with the RHS block, what timing set are you using that will work with the factory dry sump oil pump. I was told by RHS that all they had for timing sets for their blocks was a special proprietary double roller chain that works with the RHS block only because of its relocated camshaft. Did the come out with a single roller chain that will work with the LS7 dry sump pump??
I have done a couple LS7 FI applications using LS7 blocks that had Darton sleeves installed and also a mainline girdle installed to stabilize the bottom end. One is 1000 FWHP TTiX build with Callies crank, Oliver billet rods and Arias pistons along with the Darton sleeves and the mainline girdle. However I would love to use a RHS block for a project. So if you got it to work please by all means share some info.
Very impressed with the RHS block for the cost. We have a few builds going together with the RHS standard deck blocks and will be selling the LS7 blocks. Before the RHS block, sleeving the LS7 made a lot of sense.
Rough cost is $3000 for sleeves, machine work, install on LS7 block.
OR
$4500 for RHS block which has 6 bolt head provisions, billet mains, good sleeves, more rigid design, etc.
Seems like a no brainer to me. Not to mention the LS7 short blocks if still in good shape bring about $3500.
You stated that the RHS block is 4500.00 and includes the 6 bolt head provision, billet mains and good sleeves which is true but we sleeve LS2, LS7, etc...... with our Superdeck I system for 2600.00 and it includes all the sleeving, machining, final honing, doweled billet main caps, block is decked hot tanked and stress relieved. Not to mention that our ductile iron sleeves can be bored out much bigger than the RHS. Ours can be bored out to a 4.200 bore size. The other real nice option is to go with our 6 bolt option. We do all our Superdeck I sleeving and machining and we also add in a 5th bolt rail at the bottom and 6 bolt tabs up top so that you can run the 6 bolt heads like the RHS and LSX blocks. Our 6 bolt pattern is based off of the GM LSX pattern. We have plenty of these Superdeck I 6 bolt blocks out there running and have had really good results from it and it's only a 400.00 upgrade to add the 6 bolt option to the Superdeck I sleeving. That brings our ERL Superdeck I 6 Bolt sleeving to 3000.00 ready to be assembled. SInce you already have the LS block just send it to us and we can do all the upgrades I've talked about and you don't have to start with a whole new casting that could cause some fitment issues etc....... Let me know if I can help answer any questions about our products.
Lets say you don't even have a core to send us to get sleeved, we can still sell you one of our good LS2 cores plus the ERL Superdeck I 6 Bolt for anly a total of 4200.00 and is still 300.00 cheaper than the RHS casting. We've dealt with cast blocks before and our experience with them is that if you pay say 4500.00 for the block you are then going to put even more into it to get it ready for assembly. Just some more food for thought.
Mike Brown, Steve Turley and now Mark Koehler (Ohio Boys) are all running our ERL Superdeck I 6 Bolt blocks and they are all in the mid to low 7's. Raceproven, Vette Doctors and LG Motorsports are some to name a few in the Vette community that are running our blocks. Louis, when are you going to get back up here again?
Mike Brown, Steve Turley and now Mark Koehler (Ohio Boys) are all running our ERL Superdeck I 6 Bolt blocks and they are all in the mid to low 7's. Raceproven, Vette Doctors and LG Motorsports are some to name a few in the Vette community that are running our blocks. Louis, when are you going to get back up here again?
Those are some heavy hitters running some sick times-take a stout block to take on that kind of punishment.
That sounds more like it
Thanks Charlie, I always enjoy your posts
Man I wish I could take our spark plug pressure transducer from the engine lab and slap it on my car... But the plug won't fit
That is exactly the kind of stuff I'd like to have available today - back in the day we used pressure transducers to understand the BMEP ( Brake Mean Effective Pressure ), across the cylinders. In order to better balance the BMEP we optimized individual port profiles in camshaft, valve seat angles, cylinder ports, etc...
Anyone that is unfamiliar with BMEP -here's a good technical link...-BMEP -
Lets say you don't even have a core to send us to get sleeved, we can still sell you one of our good LS2 cores plus the ERL Superdeck I 6 Bolt for anly a total of 4200.00 and is still 300.00 cheaper than the RHS casting. We've dealt with cast blocks before and our experience with them is that if you pay say 4500.00 for the block you are then going to put even more into it to get it ready for assembly. Just some more food for thought.
Be cool if GM came out with a boost ready LS9 short block. 6-bolt heads, dowel pins, forged crank/pistons, advanced oiling, etc. Probably could handle as much as an RHS or Warhawk, but who knows.