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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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WOW, You should open your own speed shop. You are good
If you have about $250k you'd like to invest I'll be glad to do that very thing!
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Hello, this thread has provided a lot of great info. I am also considering installing one on my 2006 LS2 automatic coupe. Question I have not seen discussed a lot here... in reviewing the online installation guide, the last page "recommends" installing Edelbrock IAS shocks since "the addition of the E-Force Supercharger System may affect the weight distribution and subsequently the handling characteristics of your vehicle." Anyone notice any issues? One of the very early posts made mention about a lower ride height but I think the owner had a lowered car. Mine is stock ride height.
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As far as ride height goes...The C6 Vette has an adjuster on either side of the front of the car that takes a 10mm wrench. I installed another Edelbrock last month for a gentleman and put 4.5 turns in those two adjusters and restored his ride height back to it's original factory position.



Here is the link to that second install... http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...ll-for-me.html

You are adding weight to the nose of the car and upgrading the shocks would be a sound upgrade. There are a lot of quality aftermarket shocks for the Vette.

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My corvette (2005) is also stock. I had the eForce installed on my LS2. The front end is a little lower and I have noticed tht the steering is a little "heavier", if that makes any sense. The S/C is great though and I will probably install some heavier shocks after I have made up my mind on any other body conversions that I am considering. Hope this helps.
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My corvette (2005) is also stock. I had the eForce installed on my LS2. The front end is a little lower and I have noticed tht the steering is a little "heavier", if that makes any sense. The S/C is great though and I will probably install some heavier shocks after I have made up my mind on any other body conversions that I am considering. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the feedback!
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Upgrading from 52lb Bosch to 65lb FAST injectors and moving from the 3.5" pulley down to a 3.25" pulley.

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Upgrading from 52lb Bosch to 65lb FAST injectors and moving from the 3.5" pulley down to a 3.25" pulley.

Looking forward to the results!
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Upgrading from 52lb Bosch to 65lb FAST injectors and moving from the 3.5" pulley down to a 3.25" pulley.
Makes sense..My tuner did express the opinion that Edel. underbudgeted the injectors on the 1591 kit ..probably fro cost reasons. Please don't hold it agaist me if I plagiarize :-)
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I don't think Edelbrock's decision to use 52lb injectors was a cost decision. There isn't much if any cost difference between the different size injectors from the same company. The injectors in the 1591 kit are sized for the 1591 kit's intended performance level. It's when you start modifying outside of the intended configuration that you'll need to make changes. In Edelbrock's defense, they do offer the 1592 tuner kit which sells without injectors, without a pulley and without a calibration.

Those same 52lb injectors are in the ZR1 and I'm told they are what is sold (unconfirmed) with the Maggie.
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Are those 65psi at 4bar (58#)?

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Originally Posted by vertC6
Are those 65psi at 4bar (58#)?
yep....Part #30657-8 65lb/hr at 58psi http://www.fuelairspark.com/WhatsNew...stechsheet.pdf
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If you are able, when you dyno the car again I would like to see the duty cycle of the injectors with 65# inj. I spoke with Jon at FIC and at 10psi he recomended the 72#ers, but that is to keep my duty cycle at 80%. I would imagine with the 65# inj. it would not be much higher than that.
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Originally Posted by vertC6
If you are able, when you dyno the car again I would like to see the duty cycle of the injectors with 65# inj. I spoke with Jon at FIC and at 10psi he recomended the 72#ers, but that is to keep my duty cycle at 80%. I would imagine with the 65# inj. it would not be much higher than that.
I don't think I'll be at 10psi and I don't have that as a goal. Actually I don't have any real "goal" with this upgrade other than to turn things up a small notch on my setup. Coolhand was at 10psi with his 3" pulley. I'll only gain 1.5-2psi max with the 1/4" step down from a 3.5" to a 3.25" pulley so maybe 9psi max for me. I never saw more than 90% duty cycle with the 52lb injectors and 3.5" pulley so in my head I still had 10% margin. I'm not sure why you need a 20% reserve. Is that some sort of accepted safety number FIC quoted?
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From what I gather 80% is the accepted "safe range" but many go well above 90% without any issues. Jon felt either would work fine but it just made more sense to me with the manifold pressure at 10psi would drop the 72#ers to 62#, so I figured it was best to be safe. Bill (5 liter eater) explained to me that all the guys runing "60#ers" are actually 69# because they are rated at 3 bar not 4 bar, except for (as you know) the FAST injectors. All that said I figure if I am going to upgrade I may as well have plenty of injector to cover my a$$.

Here is the calculator from his site

http://www.corvetteinjectors.com/calculator.html

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No real technical value but here is a shot of the 3.875", 3.50" and 3.25" pulleys. As you go smaller each one represents about 45 flywheel horsepower. Edelbrock also offers 3.00" and 2.75" pulleys.




3.875" Pulley Part # 15824
3.50" Pulley Part #15820
3.25" Pulley Part # 15821
3.00" Pulley Part # 15822
2.75" Pulley Part # 15823

- 3.875" = ~5.5psi 554fwhp 515fwtq (#1590 kit)

- 3.5" = ~7.5psi 599fwhp 547fwtq (#1591 kit)

- 3.25" = ~9.5psi

- 3.00" = ~11psi

- 2.75" = ~13psi

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The 65lb injectors are in and smaller 3.25" pulley is on. I need to do some tuning to touch things up but this thing called CHRISTMAS is getting in the way.
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Come on Ken, put on your Grinch hat and get out your computer!

Let us know how much boost you really see and if it feels much different. With the 3.5" pulley I'm seeing 6Lbs until pretty close to shift point where it creeps up to 7 or so.
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The 65lb injectors are in and smaller 3.25" pulley is on. I need to do some tuning to touch things up but this thing called CHRISTMAS is getting in the way.
I just drove a GS with the E-force on it. I am about sold on this unit. He is running 599 RWHP with an A6, but he has meth. My goal is 600 RWHP without meth. This thread has help alot. Thank you for your indepth results. I was going to go with a NA motor, but this unit has alot of positive features to it. Will be waiting for new results after Christmas.
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I just drove a GS with the E-force on it. I am about sold on this unit. He is running 599 RWHP with an A6, but he has meth. My goal is 600 RWHP without meth. This thread has help alot. Thank you for your indepth results. I was going to go with a NA motor, but this unit has alot of positive features to it. Will be waiting for new results after Christmas.
You'll be close to 600rwhp using the same recipe that Jason is using. I think I can claim his particular setup is at least partly a result of the consulting he and I have done since he picked up the car new from the museum. The Edelbrock is a solid performer. It's well designed, builds plenty of power and torque as you experienced today, and as you can tell from Jason's 10.3 second 1/4 results....runs like a bat out of hell! Keep in mind he has a blower cam kit, headers, the Edelbrock supercharger with several upgrades and a well sorted out professional tune. The meth probably allows a couple of extra degrees of timing on the top end which won't have a big impact on your setup. Every car performs differently though.

As for my upgrade...I'm at 611rwhp (MN6) and would expect to see at least another 35rwhp out of this pulley change.

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