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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT
Edlebrock has posted a E-Force software update (04/20/2010) on their web site for the 2008 – 2010 Corvette and the 2010 Camaro. I have no idea what was changed. Both the Corvette and Camaro files have the same number assigned to them. So, who knows what was changed?
Changes were minor...redline bumped 100 rpm, torque management was raised and a couple of diagnostic reporting tables were changed...


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Originally Posted by vertC6
Exactly, you can't measure the IAT's in front of the air to water IC's it has to be after in the runners. I saw the head unit a few weeks ago and it has a small screw in freeze plug on the right side (drivers side) just below the IC. What is this for? could you mount a IAT sensor at that point to get a measurement of the true IAT's after the IC.
You asked this a few days back and I had not gotten back to you. That plug is a 1/8" NPT thread and only exists on the driver's side. I believe it's intended use is for a boost gauge sensor. It would also be a logical spot for guys who wanted to use meth after the rotors but you'd need another fitting on the passenger side or you'd only be injecting for one bank of cylinders.

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Originally Posted by Motorhead-47
You asked this a few days back and I had not gotten back to you. That plug is a 1/8" NPT thread and only exists on the driver's side. I believe it's intended use is for a boost gauge sensor. It would also be a logical spot for guys who wanted to use meth after the rotors but you'd need another fitting on the passenger side or you'd only be injecting for one bank of cylinders.

I think that's in one of the runners actually, or right at the inlet of one... You'd be feeding only one cylinder if you did that.
I don't think post blower meth injection is feasible when the IC sits right on top of the runners like that...
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
I think that's in one of the runners actually, or right at the inlet of one... You'd be feeding only one cylinder if you did that.
I don't think post blower meth injection is feasible when the IC sits right on top of the runners like that...
It's actually along the flange just below the seam, down about 1" and about midway along the case. I believe that puts it immediately below the intercooler...logical spot for a boost sensor. You might be right about it being at the mouth of one runner. Guess you'd need eight of these to feed this setup with methanol!



Another shot of that plug courtesy of A&A...

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For those that are curious Edelbrock uses 52lb Bosch injectors with part #Bosch 0 280 158 187 (0280158187).

More details on the injectors are here... http://www.lsxtune.com/shop/product_...oducts_id/1694
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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The 1591 manual does not indicate specifically how to deal with the NPP (dual mode) air intake pipe in the front/driver side. Anybody has had issues with this?
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- 3.25" = ~9.5psi

- 3.00" = ~11psi

- 2.75" = ~13psi

Are these pulley's available for the E-force?
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Originally Posted by Telepierre
The 1591 manual does not indicate specifically how to deal with the NPP (dual mode) air intake pipe in the front/driver side. Anybody has had issues with this?
My car is NPP equipped. Provisions are there for that vacuum line. I can't remember off the top of my head where it plugged in but my NPP works fine.

Step #155 in the instructions I believe takes care of it. Connection at the other end is shown in photo below step #169. http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_.../1000/1590.pdf

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Originally Posted by obzidian
- 3.25" = ~9.5psi

- 3.00" = ~11psi

- 2.75" = ~13psi

Are these pulley's available for the E-force?
I doubt you can get them from Edelbrock but call Stillen and they'll hook you up....supposedly exact same pulleys that are used on the Maggie TVS2300. Or better yet just Google "Magnacharger TVS 2300 pulley" and you'll get dozens of hits.

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Thanks for the recommendation. We can get ALL 5 sizes of the E-Force pulleys. They are even a better price than the Magnuson units. HOwever that being said, they are NOT the same design at all. Magnuson uses pressed on pulleys for their jack shaft and Edelbrock uses bolt on pulleys for easy/quick changes.
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Originally Posted by Team STILLEN
Thanks for the recommendation. We can get ALL 5 sizes of the E-Force pulleys. They are even a better price than the Magnuson units. HOwever that being said, they are NOT the same design at all. Magnuson uses pressed on pulleys for their jack shaft and Edelbrock uses bolt on pulleys for easy/quick changes.
Double check your source data....everything I see tells me the 1900/2300 uses the same bolt-on pulley. Example... http://www.dragtimes.com/parts/3-00-...079141520.html

Check the photo next to step 153 of the Magnacharger install manual for the C6 Corvette....sure looks like bolts to me! http://www.magnacharger.com/pdf/manu...ntercooled.pdf

Hub is pressed on but the pulley bolts on. Alibi...I have not personally verified that they are the same though...read it on another forum that the pullies are the same.

Doesn't matter though...Stillen has the different pulley sizes that fit the E-Force

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My car is NPP equipped. Provisions are there for that vacuum line. I can't remember off the top of my head where it plugged in but my NPP works fine.

Step #155 in the instructions I believe takes care of it. Connection at the other end is shown in photo below step #169. http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_.../1000/1590.pdf
Thank you! I kept looking way past that in the procedure. So this is were we are at..apologies for the shaky picture but could not hold steady..:-)

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Well I guess I have to tell our "salesperson" at Magnuson that they finally changed their hub design and someone should finally tell her that!

As for Edelbrock, they do make their own pulleys and range from $35 to $45 depending on the size you order. Not bad pricing for OE quality.

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Originally Posted by Team STILLEN
As for Edelbrock, they do make their own pulleys and range from $35 to $45 depending on the size you order. Not bad pricing for OE quality.


Straight from Edelbrock's website...

PULLEYS FOR E-FORCE COMPETITION SUPERCHARGER KITS

E-Force Competition Supercharger Pulleys are Available in different sizes for fine tuning air flow for your specific racing needs.

3.875" Pulley Part # 15824
3.50" Pulley Part #15820
3.25" Pulley Part # 15821
3.00" Pulley Part # 15822
2.75" Pulley Part # 15823

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I'm going to add an Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge to the mix so I can see what is going on with IAT's and other things without having to carry a laptop with HP Tuners in the passenger seat. Thanks to forum member "PDanley" for the tip on this awesome Aeroforce gauge. For those interested in adding parameter monitoring capability via the OBDII port check this gauge out!...a ton of features!
http://www.aeroforcetech.com/products_interceptor.html





Also thanks to forum member "Gotcha" for having the ***** to drill the dash....details to follow this weekend but I'll end up with a ton of on-demand monitoring capability via the OBDII port plus the ability to monitor fuel pressure and boost all rolled up into a single 2" hole in the dash without having to add a gauge pod to the pillar! Line-of-sight to this spot from the driver's seat is perfect!

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Originally Posted by Telepierre
Thank you! I kept looking way past that in the procedure. So this is were we are at..apologies for the shaky picture but could not hold steady..:-)

Your photo turned into a red X on my PC but I briefly saw it on my Blackberry. Looked like you were coming up on the tale end of the install. WooHoo! Did you guys do the fuel pump yet?
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I like that.

I could see a nexus unit in there.

FYI the units can change color if the needle gets to a certian point.
Acts as a warning.

or use a PLX thin one
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I like that.

I could see a nexus unit in there.

FYI the units can change color if the needle gets to a certian point.
Acts as a warning.

or use a PLX thin one
These are nice gauges. I had looked at both of these as well. The PLX website didn't mention a fuel pressure sensor. I contacted them and they said it wasn't available but they may provide one later.

Also, the Aeroforce gauge has lights that turn on for a warning. You can program the warning based on OBDII parameters or data from the external sensors.
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I would agree that for a single function I prefer the "analog" look over this digital gauge. It would match the instrument cluster better. But, when you look at how configurable this Aeroforce gauge is there just doesn't see to be a better choice. Basically if the OBDII port is reporting it, you can display it. I believe the count is 54 different possible parameters that can be displayed. You can also read DTC's and reset from this gauge. There are two LED's on the gauge face that can be configured to warn you if a high or low value that you select is reached. It also has a 60 second data record feature which will be useful.

Here is the list of what can be displayed...user configurable! Not everything here is applicable to the Vette but most are.

1. INTAKE AIR- Intake Air Temperature
2. COOLANT TEMP- Engine Coolant Temperature
3. TRANS TEMP 1- Transmission Temperature for automatic vehicles
4. RPM- engine Revolutions Per Minute
5. MAF SENSOR LB/M- Mass Air Flow (lbs/min)
6. MAF FREQUENCY- raw Mass Air Flow sensor output (frequency)
7. DI FUEL PRESSURE – Direct injection fuel pressure (vehicle must have direct injection)
8. MAP SENSOR- Manifold Air Pressure (kPa)
9. BOOST – Intake vacuum/boost displayed in inHg/PSI. Corrected by altitude entry or barometer
10. THROTTLE POS. PCT- Throttle Position percentage - actual
11. ABSOLUTE THROTTLE POSITION – will read throttle position from 0-100%
12. MILES PER HOUR- Miles Per Hour
13. KNOCK RETARD- Knock Retard (degrees) for most GM vehicles
14. IGNITION ADVANCE- ignition timing advance
15. PULSE WIDTH- injector #1 pulse width
16. SHORT TRIM B1-short term fuel trim bank#1
17. SHORT TRIM B2-short term fuel trim bank#2
18. LONG TRIM B1-long term fuel trim bank#1
19. LONG TRIM B2-long term fuel trim bank#2
20. O2 SENSOR B1S1-O2 bank 1 sensor1 in millivolts
21. O2 SENSOR B2S1-O2 bank 2 sensor1 in millivolts
22. O2 SENSOR B1S2-O2 bank 1 sensor 2 in millivolts
23. O2 SENSOR B2S2-O2 bank 2 sensor 2 in millivolts
24. RUN TIME MINS- engine run time is tenths of seconds since last engine start
25. BATTERY VOLTAGE- Alternator/battery output voltage
26. CURRENT GEAR- The current gear of an automatic transmission.
27. PULSE WIDTH B1-injector Pulse Width for bank 1 (8 cylinder engines)
28. PULSE WIDTH B2-injector Pulse Width for bank 2 (8 cylinder engines)
29. INJECTOR DUTY CYCLE- 0-100%
30. ENGINE LOAD- calculated Engine Load (0-100%)
31. ENGINE OIL PRESSURE (not supported by all vehicles)
32. ENGINE OIL TEMPERATURE – Engine oil temp.
33. INTAKE AIR 2 – Intake Air Temp. downstream of intercooler (some supercharged applications such
as the Cobalt SS, Solstice GTP, Saturn Sky).
34. TOTAL MISFIRES- Total misfires of all cylinders. Resets every minute
35. Miles Per Gallon 1- instantaneous fuel economy for gas vehicles
36. BAROMETRIC PRESSURE- Displays atmospheric pressure. All vehicles may not support this.
37. HP - Calculated net horsepower
38. TRQ RDCT RTRD – Spark retard due to torque management ( automatics trans)
39. DELIVERED TORQUE – Calculated torque delivered from engine to transmission (automatic trans)
40. TRQ TRAC CNTL - Desired torque from traction control system (auto trans)
41. TC SLP SPD RPM – Torque converter slip (RPM) (auto trans)
42. TRANS IN RPM – RPM of input shaft to transmission (auto trans)
43. TRANS OUT RPM – RPM of transmission output shaft (auto trans)
44. NON DRV SPEED – Speed of non-driven wheel (mph)
45. TCC STATUS – Indicates “UL” or “L” (unlocked /locked) depending on the state of the Torque
Converter Clutch
46. FUEL STATUS – Displays “Open” or “Closed” to indicate open or closed loop fueling.
47. FUEL LEVEL – Gallons of fuel remaining in tank.
48. Cat Temp1 – Calculated catalytic converter #1 temperature (calc’ed by the car’s PCM)
49. Cat Temp2 – Calculated catalytic converter #2 temperature (calc’ed by the car’s PCM)
48. Analog 1 – analog input #1.
49. Analog 2 – analog input #2
50. COMMANDED A/F – Commanded air/fuel ratio by PCM.
51. COMMANDED LAMBDA – Commanded Lambda (a different way of measuring A/F ratio. Lambda
= 14.7/actual A/F ratio. Therefore a value greater than 1 is “rich”, less is “lean”.
52. LAMBDA – Actual Lambda (only available on vehicles with factory wideband sensor)
53. A/F RATIO – Actual A/F ratio (only available on vehicles with factory wideband sensor)
54. SENSOR CURRENT – Current draw of wideband O2 sensor (only available on vehicles with factory
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