Edelbrock E-Force?
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I like my multifunction Aeroforce gauge in the dash but this thing is way cool!....WIFI OBDII to your IPhone/Itouch http://www.ot-2.com/
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Thats the coolest s%$# I have ever seen! Can this setup do all the functions that the areoforce gauge does? I guess it would not be able to do fuel pressure but would it show boost? And it can give you diagnostics on the fly, the stuff they come up with today just blows my mind! Thanks for the heads up.
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Just sat here and read all 20 pages of this thread, VERY go info. in here on the New E-Force! 
I am interested to see someone turn up the wick on this kit, and see what kind of numbers it will Really, put down! Updates anyone? Improvements? Really interested in the gains that Redline's H.O. Kit would make? Anyone done a New 2010 GS M6 yet? I'm thinking a New GS, Forged bottom end, CNC'd stock heads, a "Good" Blower cam, and a 11# pulley on the E-Force = ZR1's are now my bitches!!! 
And I still have $30-35K left over and cheaper insurance!!! 
I am interested to see someone turn up the wick on this kit, and see what kind of numbers it will Really, put down! Updates anyone? Improvements? Really interested in the gains that Redline's H.O. Kit would make? Anyone done a New 2010 GS M6 yet? I'm thinking a New GS, Forged bottom end, CNC'd stock heads, a "Good" Blower cam, and a 11# pulley on the E-Force = ZR1's are now my bitches!!! And I still have $30-35K left over and cheaper insurance!!!
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So far Redline has the crown but I am still trying to figure out how they did it, everyone else with a 3.5 pulley isn't coming close to their numbers. I plan to start with a blower cam and a 3.25 pulley which should peak at 10psi.
My saying has always been "why tear apart a perfectly good engine" there is no reason to spend money on an forged engine because there is a posibility the stock motor could break. Drive the **** out of it and if it does happen to break then go forged.
My saying has always been "why tear apart a perfectly good engine" there is no reason to spend money on an forged engine because there is a posibility the stock motor could break. Drive the **** out of it and if it does happen to break then go forged.
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a quick pump question or consideration
Has anyone looked in installing a ZR1 fuel pump instead of the Z06 or the various boost or assist pumps ?
From an old ZR1 thread the suggested Part number is 19207431
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From an old ZR1 thread the suggested Part number is 19207431
http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/bigear.gif
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Has anyone looked in installing a ZR1 fuel pump instead of the Z06 or the various boost or assist pumps ?
From an old ZR1 thread the suggested Part number is 19207431
http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/bigear.gif
From an old ZR1 thread the suggested Part number is 19207431
http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/bigear.gif
Its actually quite complex, it consists of a brushless pump running on three phase power. The control reference (desired fuel pressure based on engine load) comes from the PCM which sends a control signal to the via the high speed GM LAN to the fuel pump control module. The FPCM in turn drives the control relay to control the three phase brushless fuel pump. The control signal from the FPCM is a 400hz PWM (pulse width modulated) signal. The frequency of this PWM signal is varied to control the pump speed as pressure is either reduced or increased as demanded by the PCM. For feedback there is a pressure sensor in line to provide a pressure feedback signal to the PCM, thus providing a basic closed loop control loop for pressure control.
If you wanted to incorporate this system into your car, it would not be impossible but it would be very expensive. It would require the ZR1 PCM, and all the wiring and other smart devices such as teh FPCM, FPCM relay, the special pump and all the associated wiring. Seeing on the ZR1 uses a different PCM it will require a new engine harness, not cheap at all, but not impossible.
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Fuel Flow Update
Upgraded my fuel delivery path this past weekend...In the "stock" configuration the Edelbrock setup feeds the rear of the driver's side rail via a long braided line that loops in a 180 and then connects to a metal fitting that does another 180 at the rear of the rail. From there it feeds fuel to the front of the driver's rail, crosses to the passenger side via a braided steel line and connects at the front of the passenger side rail. At the very tail end of the "food chain" (back of the passenger side rail) I put a fuel pressure sending unit. What I observed is that when the engine was fairly well heat soaked I'd see a pretty good drop in pressure...sometimes as much as 10psi when the engine was really hot.
Although the reading was after the last injector I still didn't like the drop in pressure knowing that in likelihood #8 was going to be leaner than the rest of the cylinders. I used -6AN fittings and set up a feed to the rear of each fuel rail. FUEL PRESSURE DROP SOLVED! I see a constant 56-58psi at all times now.
Before...
Big fuel line loop that catches all the radiated heat off the header
Fuel Pressure Sending Unit at rear of passenger side rail
After...
Although the reading was after the last injector I still didn't like the drop in pressure knowing that in likelihood #8 was going to be leaner than the rest of the cylinders. I used -6AN fittings and set up a feed to the rear of each fuel rail. FUEL PRESSURE DROP SOLVED! I see a constant 56-58psi at all times now.
Before...
Big fuel line loop that catches all the radiated heat off the header
Fuel Pressure Sending Unit at rear of passenger side rail
After...
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