10k for a kit? I guess the hundreds of guys on this forum that speant 5500-8000 on their various kits, (including the eforce) installed got lucky?

 

My 1591 Edelbrock - $6,500 shipped to my door
Installation - $0.00
Calibration - $0.00



Friend's 1590 Edelbrock - $5,975 shipped to my door
Installation - $0.00
Calibration - $0.00

 

Just purchased the Edelbrock Supercharger for my 2008 Z06. Price was $7,829.79 without the tune (my tuner shop is doing their own tune on the Dyno for Phoenix, AZ heat. Tells me the Edelbrock tune in our heat doesn't get it done) Install labor is $1,900. I am also adding the A&A Radiator to counter our summer heat and adding a harmonic balancer. I already have Kooks long tube headers and Bassani exhaust and am hoping for 585 to 595 hp at the rear wheels. To get the power to the road I added ZR1 wheels and tires plus pfadt adjustable torsion bars and pfadt coil overs. My goal is ZR1 performance purchased in stages and in a sleeper.

Z06

 

That makes no sense.

 

Thought you meant to reduce the power. R compound tires will be your best friend over anything else.

 

A Z06 sleeper?

 

What is R compound? I installed the Michelin PS2 ZPs. Thanks.

Z06

 

Winter97gt, what do you do for a living? Just go with me here I will make my point in a few.
Thanks
Justin

 

Ok,
So you bought it from a dealer who sold it under MAP. you didn't pay any labor or tuning, how does that compare to what we are talking about. First off a dealer that sells it under MAP may be doing you a favor and I don't blame you for buying it and saving yourself some money. Let me explain what that does in the long run, it will force other dealers to decide if them spending x amount of dollars and making $50 over that is worth it, so they move on to the next item that can make money on. So the majority of them are no longer selling the said item, then the manufacture does not sell the quantity that they need to so they stop making it. Who gets hurt now, the person who owns the product when something goes wrong with it. It is a vicious cycle, or it can be, but this is why manufactures set up a pricing structure. It has to be worth the dealers time to sell it also just like in any business. I probably have not given you time to answer my above reply, but my point is, let's say you are a lawyer and I came to you with an issue. Are you going to work for me for free or are you going to charge me. I am sure you are going to charge me, so why then is it that the dealer who sold you the SC should make no profit on it and install it for free. It is about 3 days of labor for a turn key setup so they should do this at N/C. What industry do you know of that works for no profit and works for free? Do you also want them to warranty their work that they have done for free. I am not singling you out, but you responded. This would not be right for any business, so back to my original statement, if you want it turn key where you do not work, just drop it off and pick it up, then expect to pay around 10k.
Remember the key word is done right.

Justin

 

It's my understanding that the units are actually drop-shipped directly from the manufacturer, so all the "dealers" are really doing is processing the order.

It's different if you have to maintain an inventory of supercharger kits. Obviously that gets expensive real quick.

The profit is for the installers and tuners, as it should be.

 

I have two 1591's on the shelf. We stock, we sell, we install, and we tune. Again we are talking about customers who want turn key, this is apples to apples. A guy doing his own install is not going to pay close to the 10k mark, he is saving a ton of money by not paying someone else to do it. As far as the dropship on SC, the price break is there for shop who sell the SC, that is what a "dealer" is. It should also be the person you go back to when there is an issue, so if you are buying one below MAP and the dealer is making no money which should not happen anyways, do you think he will stand behind what he sold you. If you go back to Edelbrock they will tell you to go through the dealer, that is what they are there for, so again you have to look at the big picture. Saving something now may cost allot more later.

 

WTF does it matter what I do for a living?

I had England Green install my A&A for 6500 out the door, no headers, no radiator, nadda.

For your Info, I own my own business. But I would never be as tacky towards a potential customer by asking what they do for a living. That's just how I run my business. To each, his own.

 

I guess I do not understand. If you buy it and install it yourself, you are relying on the manufacturer warranty. If you buy it turnkey you are relying on the installer to warranty, act as your middle man, and just do everything. I agree that a plain seller should be selling below MAP; it is certainly that way with a lot of other products. The whole MAP thing has always struck me as restraint of trade and basically un-American. When I had mine done, I really did not care about package price as I wanted a turnkey job. I just compared warranties and fully delivered prices. 10k is a meaningless number because the installed packages ranged from less than that for centris to more than that for LPE/Callaway. Even 10k did not work for a plain jane Maggie install because the hood with a quality paint job ran it above that. People have their knickers in a twist because of the amount Edelbrock has increased price. It seems that if they had charged more in the beginning, they would have still been below a Maggie package and avoided this brouhaha.
Larry

 

I know you are talking about people who want turn key but this thread is titled "E Force Price Increase". Your example is the extreme high end of the cost and leads people to believe it costs $10,000 to install an Edelbrock supercharger. My example is what is will cost a do-it-yourself guy to install this supercharger. The level of detail in the printed instruction manual makes it a straightforward install. If a guy is comfortable swapping an LSx intake manifold then he can install a 1590 Edelbrock E-Force supercharger following those instructions.

And it goes without saying that I am 100% confident that the job was "done right".

 

And Moteorhead 47 is the one to know........

 

"Meteorhead"...hey...is that supposed to be a slam!?

 

Did you read the post below, you completely took this the wrong way.
I personally don't care what you do, it was to make a point. 99% of business have to get paid for labor, if someone found a place that did not that is great, but that is not normal therefore like I said in the big picture this is what someone is going to pay. This was not an attack on you personally, just replying using your post.

 

No, a compliment in every sense of the word.

 

I agree and disagree, I know what the OP was about because is was mine. You guys took it to another level and I am replying. I don't think that most people can install one of these even with instructions. Just pinning the crank is a huge job that I would not advise a novice. However a really good mechanically inclined person can do it and you will save yourself allot of money.
Now it was said above they had it done for a certain price, that is great no argument, but that is not what I referred to about the price. A stock radiator is not adequate to keep the heat down in the car with a SC, you really do need the larger radiator, does it mean you have to purchase it, NO it means that you should and what I said earlier is still so. Maybe you spend the next two years buying the parts here and there, but at the end of the day what have you spent when you are done, close to 10k. That is the only point I was making, you guys are making something else of it. I'll give you a better example.

 

....it's a tough crowd on this forum no doubt!

PEACE