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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 09:53 AM
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I'd talk to Brian on the tensioner. I know nothing (common theme with me ) about the new tensioner.

Just know that Magnuson makes a jillion pieces for every one piece that fits on a C6 Vette. I'm actually kinda surprised that they would put any effort into a tensioner upgrade. The stock tensioner is more than adequate for the vast majority of their business. Vettes are a small market for them. Vettes running enough boost that the stock tensioner doesn't work.....even smaller.
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I'd talk to Brian on the tensioner. I know nothing (common theme with me ) about the new tensioner.

Just know that Magnuson makes a jillion pieces for every one piece that fits on a C6 Vette. I'm actually kinda surprised that they would put any effort into a tensioner upgrade. The stock tensioner is more than adequate for the vast majority of their business. Vettes are a small market for them. Vettes running enough boost that the stock tensioner doesn't work.....even smaller.
First of all old motorhead is lying. As we all know. He is very knowledgeable, on this stuff the joke is he is always right. As is Andy. Second my tensioner has left a scar on my insulation on the hood when into boost. Could not figure out what smell was I knew it didn't smell like clutch. Then looked up by accident and saw the burn mark on insulation. Looking for a fix.

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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 08:57 AM
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First of all old motorhead is lying. As we all know. He is very knowledgeable, on this stuff the joke is he is always right. As is Andy. Second my tensioner has left a scar on my insulation on the hood when into boost. Could not figure out what smell was I knew it didn't smell like clutch. Then looked up by accident and saw the burn mark on insulation. Looking for a fix.

Rodney was just trying to be humble, when he really has nothing to be humble about!
We should actually call him "Mr. Blower Man", or "PD Daddy" (The Real "P Diddy"!). He has a TVS-blown flatbed truck ferchrisakes!
I'm with you on the tensioner. Mine is nearly out all the way against the stop now too, so I'm going to take a look at my hood liner shortly. The spring in that thing is pretty feeble. When I installed the "gatorback" belt, which was a very tight fit, I literally used the palm of my left hand to push the tensioner all the way in whilst I used the right hand push the belt onto the smooth idler. There's no way that should be able to do that without using a lever, IMV.
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Old Mar 8, 2016 | 07:39 PM
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Magnums on told me the reason they don't ship the units with an ordered smaller pulley or tune for same is due to CARB rules. They have the unit where it passes CARB, and the changes violate that.

According to Andy at A&A, it is CARB. So, I guess that means I dislike politicians more than lawyers I understand some are cool, though
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Here is some interesting info scraped from that same post for us CARB restricted folks in the Peoples Republic:
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Getting ANYTHING certified through CARB is very expensive and time consuming. To be quite honest though, it only cost me about $30,000 and a year and a half of my life.
It used to be easy to get by SMOG. If a guy just didn't notice that a car had a blower on it, who's to say that he just wasn't attentive or blind.
Nowadays there is an actual page that pops up and asks the technician "does the vehicle have a supercharger installed?" and if the guy answers "yes" , it will ask for the CARB EO number.
It will actually scan the database and check to see if the CARB# given is valid for that particular VIN number.
Just pretending not to notice is one thing. Swearing under penalty of pergery that there is no supercharger is quite another.
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george536 is correct!

I have the A&A CARB certified S/C installed by A&A Corvettes. After the install, I had a smog inspection done. First they hook up to the OBD and check for readiness codes and any active codes. In CA you can have up to one readiness code incomplete. Next, he looked up the CARB # and checked for visual requirements. PCV routing, pulley size, HB diameter and exhaust system for cats. Some things they cannot see visually, i.e. the required oem 187* T-stat. Some inspectors may not be as thorough, but this one was. I passed with no issues, but just telling you what I experienced.
Man, it's hard to get any "hidden ponies" in this crazy state, without risking major hassles! I was intending to ask this very question, and now I know. I'm disappointed to say the least...
I betcha' if "P Diddy Daddy" OM lived here, he'd find a way to find them hidden horses...
Should I stay out of Tx after using that name?

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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by scottg
First of all old motorhead is lying. As we all know. He is very knowledgeable, on this stuff the joke is he is always right. As is Andy. Second my tensioner has left a scar on my insulation on the hood when into boost. Could not figure out what smell was I knew it didn't smell like clutch. Then looked up by accident and saw the burn mark on insulation. Looking for a fix.
Scotty, I checked my tensioner last night and there's no way that could touch your hood, as it is much too low to do that. It may be your inlet bellows touching the liner, because that's about the only thing that sits that high?
I'm going to order the Magnuson tensioner today and one of those GripTec Pulleys. I'll let you all know what they look like when I get them.
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 08:53 AM
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[QUOTE=Chiselchst;1591729355]According to Andy at A&A, it is CARB. So, I guess that means I dislike politicians more than lawyers I understand some are cool, though
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Here is some interesting info scraped from that same post for us CARB restricted folks in the Peoples Republic:
Originally Posted by Andy@A&ACorvette;1591723013/
Getting ANYTHING certified through CARB is very expensive and time consuming. To be quite honest though, it only cost me about $30,000 and a year and a half of my life.
It used to be easy to get by SMOG. If a guy just didn't notice that a car had a blower on it, who's to say that he just wasn't attentive or blind.
Nowadays there is an actual page that pops up and asks the technician "does the vehicle have a supercharger installed?" and if the guy answers "yes" , it will ask for the CARB EO number.
It will actually scan the database and check to see if the CARB# given is valid for that particular VIN number.
Just pretending not to notice is one thing. Swearing under penalty of pergery that there is no supercharger is quite another.
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Man, it's hard to get any "hidden ponies" in this crazy state, without risking major hassles! I was intending to ask this very question, and now I know. I'm disappointed to say the least...
I betcha' if "P Diddy Daddy" OM lived here, he'd find a way to find them hidden horses...
Should I stay out of Tx after using that name?

People's republic?! Lmao!
What do you expect from a state that elects Aahnald aka the Terminator as its Governor?!
Yah all needs a real guvneer, like old dubya!
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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 08:56 AM
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It took quite an effort to get my belt on with the stock tensioner, but of course, that's because it hasn't been blessed with the blower on top. I guess that will be the next something to keep an eye out for...
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Originally Posted by CI GS
Scotty, I checked my tensioner last night and there's no way that could touch your hood, as it is much too low to do that. It may be your inlet bellows touching the liner, because that's about the only thing that sits that high?
I'm going to order the Magnuson tensioner today and one of those GripTec Pulleys. I'll let you all know what they look like when I get them.
Thanks Sammy, I get the car back in my garage at end of the month. Can't wait to get hands on again
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Originally Posted by old motorhead
I'd talk to Brian on the tensioner. I know nothing (common theme with me ) about the new tensioner.

Just know that Magnuson makes a jillion pieces for every one piece that fits on a C6 Vette. I'm actually kinda surprised that they would put any effort into a tensioner upgrade. The stock tensioner is more than adequate for the vast majority of their business. Vettes are a small market for them. Vettes running enough boost that the stock tensioner doesn't work.....even smaller.

FYI: Spoke to Cam @ SCOL yesterday and sent him an email last night with a bunch of questions on whether the tensioner is a HD version, whether the GripTech 2.8" can work on the C6 HB, and what's the status of the 108mm snout and throttle body, as well as what air inlet/filter housing can be used on the 108mm. I'll let you all know what he comes back with.
If the tensioner has a heavier spring, I'm going to order that and the 3.2" Grip Tech, since I already have a Powerbond 10% OD balancer on order, and Rodney already has me scared about what that will produce with the 81mm/3.2" pulley!
Still waiting on my cam kit, ID injectors and Alky kit from Vengeance too. I'll soon have lots of things to do, in the spare time that I don't have...

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Just an FYI:
Here are the responses that I got from SCOL today:

1. There were only a few of the very early Magnuson HB Corvette systems with a skinny nose drive that could accept a 2.8".

2. There is no upgrade for a HB Corvette Tensioner.

3. The 108mm intake is from some company in Australia. We are not a distributor for them.

4. You would be on your own for an Air Intake for that 108mm



I guess I'm stuck with my feeble a$$ tensioner. wish somebody would make an upgrade like Edelbrock did for the E-Force.
I'm ordering one each of the 3.2" and 3.4" GripTec pulleys, just for the hell of it.
And it sounds like getting that 108mm throttle body on one of these HB blowers is very close to being up there with riding a unicorn...
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Originally Posted by CI GS
Just an FYI:
Here are the responses that I got from SCOL today:

1. There were only a few of the very early Magnuson HB Corvette systems with a skinny nose drive that could accept a 2.8".

2. There is no upgrade for a HB Corvette Tensioner.

3. The 108mm intake is from some company in Australia. We are not a distributor for them.

4. You would be on your own for an Air Intake for that 108mm



I guess I'm stuck with my feeble a$$ tensioner. wish somebody would make an upgrade like Edelbrock did for the E-Force.
I'm ordering one each of the 3.2" and 3.4" GripTec pulleys, just for the hell of it.
And it sounds like getting that 108mm throttle body on one of these HB blowers is very close to being up there with riding a unicorn...
Thanks for looking into it Sammy. I just about called you Saul
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Thanks for looking into it Sammy. I just about called you Saul
You better hope that you don't have to call Saul!
I don't do that kind of law anyhow. I just do boring property and development stuff...
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Originally Posted by CI GS
Just an FYI:
Here are the responses that I got from SCOL today:

1. There were only a few of the very early Magnuson HB Corvette systems with a skinny nose drive that could accept a 2.8".

2. There is no upgrade for a HB Corvette Tensioner.

3. The 108mm intake is from some company in Australia. We are not a distributor for them.

4. You would be on your own for an Air Intake for that 108mm



I guess I'm stuck with my feeble a$$ tensioner. wish somebody would make an upgrade like Edelbrock did for the E-Force.
I'm ordering one each of the 3.2" and 3.4" GripTec pulleys, just for the hell of it.
And it sounds like getting that 108mm throttle body on one of these HB blowers is very close to being up there with riding a unicorn...
Just where on that island do you have a chance to run that car anyway? I've been there once, rented a car for the week and drove around. I didn't see any corvettes, so you must be a rarity.
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Originally Posted by VetteArts
Took the measure of the blower pulley and it is 96mm end to end. At the same time its part number in Google search is 81mm.
Crank pulley is 7.5 inch.
Belt is 3014mm and very tight. No way that 2450mm will fit.

Am I getting something wrong? ??
Glad to see you actually have a 96mm pulley and that nothing is likely wrong.

But yes, the ideal belt length for an 81mm pulley and stock balancer is a 96.5" or 96.75" (I think that's what the 4060967 specs out at). Rodney is running the 4060967 right now, and it's what I was running until about 2 weeks ago. The 4060965 is about as small as will fit when new. They stretch some after use.

And was mentioned, the Gatorback is now branded Continental Elite. It's still the same belt made by the same manufacturer (I.e. Not Goodyear OR Continental). Just a name/brand change, that is all. That said, I'd try to find a Conti branded one. Then you know it's new'ish. I ordered a Gatorback from Rock Auto a while back, and it showed up looking like it was made in the Reagan era. I didn't even want to put it on the car.
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Just where on that island do you have a chance to run that car anyway? I've been there once, rented a car for the week and drove around. I didn't see any corvettes, so you must be a rarity.
I'm not at liberty to say, but I got the old girl up to 122 a little while ago before having to get out if it. We've built a few new roads lately and one developer is even in the process of building what I think is the worlds first tunnel built from the ground up.
No kidding, if you were here more than 5 years ago, you might be shocked at what you would see now.
BTW: The TCM tune mods makes this thing shift as fast, if not faster, than a 911's PDK, and it pulls like like a freight train once the converter locks up at about 75mph in 3rd, which feels like a gear change in and of itself.
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Better call Saul!
I did already. But he said he could only help if I have meth!
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