C6 met its match?
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C6 met its match?
Will a 2005 Mustang GT running an 8psi supercharger w/ 3.73's be enough to beat a C6.
I thought 10 or 11psi's were needed?
I thought 10 or 11psi's were needed?
Last edited by Fastphilly; Jul 7, 2006 at 01:39 AM.
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Originally Posted by Fastphilly
Will a 2005 Mustang GT running 8psi w/ 3.73's be enough to beat a C6.
I thought 10 or 11psi's were needed?
I thought 10 or 11psi's were needed?
In stock trim the heavier Mustang GT will generally give up over a second and over 10mph in the 1/4 mile to a C6 so that supercharger (I'm assuming it's a blower and not turbo) and gears have their work cut out for them in making up that deficit.
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Depends on what type of race. My last Mustang was faster than my C6 in the quarter mile by almost a full second. But if we were starting at 30 to 40 miles an hour my C6 would take it everytime. Put some twists in the mix and it is not even a race. Besides my Mustang would only run 152 MPH and I take the C6 upwards of 180 all the time. They are not the same type of car so you can't compare them. I admit I am just beginnig to accept this myself. I don't like loosing any race but the C6 really is not the best 1/8 or 1/4 mile car but it really shines on the highway.
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From: Howell N.J
Originally Posted by Fastphilly
Will a 2005 Mustang GT running an 8psi supercharger w/ 3.73's be enough to beat a C6.
I thought 10 or 11psi's were needed?
I thought 10 or 11psi's were needed?
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From: Catonsville MD
Originally Posted by JELSIS
JDM Engineering in N.J has a kit which includes Saleen series VI 7psi supercharger, full exhaust, 4:10 gear, tuning and a sticky tire that has run 11.69 at 117mph.
Justin Burcham from JPC ran 11.9's with gears, axle back exhaust, drag radials and an intake. Those cars have alot of potential if you can drive them.
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Originally Posted by achilds
Are you comparing a stock C6 to a modified Mustang? I suggest that no one really cares. Spend the same amount on both cars and the C6 will win it is a better starting platform.
The woulda coulda argument? The mustang guys will say "well Spend 26k on a GT then put 14+ thousand into it and destroy a c6".
Seriously though, if you get beat by a supercharged GT are you gonna stop and tell the guy in the mustang that if you had a supercharger too you would have beat him?
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Originally Posted by Dave@LivernoisDSS
The woulda coulda argument? The mustang guys will say "well Spend 26k on a GT then put 14+ thousand into it and destroy a c6".
Seriously though, if you get beat by a supercharged GT are you gonna stop and tell the guy in the mustang that if you had a supercharger too you would have beat him?
Seriously though, if you get beat by a supercharged GT are you gonna stop and tell the guy in the mustang that if you had a supercharger too you would have beat him?
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Originally Posted by achilds
No I am just saying compare apples to apples.
Mind you, I don't give a sh*t either, as I'd gladly spend $60k on my convertible Vette rather than $35k on a mustang with $25k on mods. Even if I lose the race, I'll be psyched to take my Vette home.
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From my perspective the apples to apples is stock to stock. If you are racing they have brackets, stock, modified etc. Remember you get charged more for better apples at the grocery store too! I agree though win, lose or draw I would much rather drive my vette home than a mustang (except for my 67 mustang maybe).
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Hmmm, my '06 Mustang GT weighs about 3800 lbs with me in it. It ran a best of 14.1 @ 99 mph bone stock. My '05 Corvette ran 12.4s @ 114 at the same track, about 2 wks apart.
It would take another 15 mph trap speed to match the Corvette, so easily 150 rwhp or more. Probably needs 175-200 rwhp more.
8psi would be close, but it would come down to driver skill, in my opinion.
It would take another 15 mph trap speed to match the Corvette, so easily 150 rwhp or more. Probably needs 175-200 rwhp more.
8psi would be close, but it would come down to driver skill, in my opinion.
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When you really think about it, anyone with the ability to spend a lot of money on engine enhancements will be able to beat the Corvette. A guy with a Ford Escort that dumps a 455 ram jet engine with a blower and does other mods to make it work could potentialy beat a Z06. But in the end he still driving a POS Escort. Now I'm not saying that the Mustang is a POS because I tend to like them, but just trying to make a dramatic point with the escort which I do think is a POS.