A6 vs. M6
Le Mans Master
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From: Monroe Township New Jersey
St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
St. Jude donor in memory of jpee '14
A6 vs M6
or
rear in one piece vs rear in several pieces
May have been a more interesting comparision for discussion
or
rear in one piece vs rear in several pieces
May have been a more interesting comparision for discussion
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From: Short Hills, NJ
Originally Posted by glennhl
LS1LT1, you better watch out around every corner. There are going to a bunch of teenage girls driving the old technology manually shifted transmissions (i.e. the junk MN6 or MZ6) trying to beat your time. It must hurt these jealous people terribly when they realized that they could have bought the fastest tranny if they had just been willing to spend another $1000.
LS1LT1, you and your A6 are the KING OF THE HILL!
LS1LT1, you and your A6 are the KING OF THE HILL!
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Thanks Glenn but I still believe that in the right (aka: very skilled) hands a stock manual C6 can beat a stock A6 on the same track on the same day. Most who race their cars usually don't choose to stay stock for the length of time (roughly a year or so with multiple track visits throughout) that it takes to wring the most out of a car. I chose that route, learned a lot from each pass and just happened to snag a few visits where it all came together.
However, when I had the manual in the Camaro, the guys with a converter and the A4's were always quicker. I'm just glad the A6 is so quick out of the box even with the stock converter.
Now if you'll just teach me how to do a good burnout in order to get some low 1.90's. My best so far is 1.94 and that's just with a short dry hop.
Thanks,
Glenn
Last edited by glennhl; Dec 11, 2006 at 01:08 AM.
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From: Short Hills, NJ
Originally Posted by glennhl
Now if you'll just teach me how to do a good burnout in order to get some low 1.90's.
Now there is a tricky helpful part to that that I'd just figured out two track visits ago but sshhh please don't tell anyone my secret
...I use the paddles to lock the trans in 2nd and that is the gear I do the burnout in but you have to remember to throw the shifter back into 'D' and then quickly back down to 'S' before staging. Try and get in the best 'groove' at the starting line as well if ya can.
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Originally Posted by glennhl
LS1LT1, you better watch out around every corner. There are going to a bunch of teenage girls driving the old technology manually shifted transmissions (i.e. the junk MN6 or MZ6) trying to beat your time. It must hurt these jealous people terribly when they realized that they could have bought the fastest tranny if they had just been willing to spend another $1000.
LS1LT1, you and your A6 are the KING OF THE HILL!
LS1LT1, you and your A6 are the KING OF THE HILL!
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From: Colorado Springs, CO
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
Maybe I'm just getting old but I can get past the manual/manly thing easy enough. When the 6.2 liter comes out, I will trade in my 05 manual. I had no idea it was as quick as it is. No more clutch BS....
Thanks for the input.
Thanks for the input.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
There are going to be silly comparrisons forever....bottom line is they are nearly dead even in performance. So for the guys that dont care about having to shift, launch, have a loud exhaust...ie the guys that just want a fast car, get either. I'm done with clutches, dead rear diffs, and having to let go of the woman's hand while driving.
Aint that romantic?
Aint that romantic?
Racer
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From: Richmond VA
Originally Posted by SpinMonster
... and having to let go of the woman's hand while driving.
Aint that romantic?
Aint that romantic?
Now if the car would just get here...I would be happy ....
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by LS1LT1
With TC and AH off I do go through the water box (some tracks don't like when street tired cars do this but we have no choice at Atco anyway) but I go slowly as to not splash any water up into the wheelwells. I pull completely out of the water and with my left foot on the brakes I quickly bring the revs up high (roughly 5k rpm) and really bake the rear tires.
Now there is a tricky helpful part to that that I'd just figured out two track visits ago but sshhh please don't tell anyone my secret...I use the paddles to lock the trans in 2nd and that is the gear I do the burnout in but you have to remember to throw the shifter back into 'D' and then quickly back down to 'S' before staging. Try and get in the best 'groove' at the starting line as well if ya can.
Now there is a tricky helpful part to that that I'd just figured out two track visits ago but sshhh please don't tell anyone my secret
...I use the paddles to lock the trans in 2nd and that is the gear I do the burnout in but you have to remember to throw the shifter back into 'D' and then quickly back down to 'S' before staging. Try and get in the best 'groove' at the starting line as well if ya can.
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by ALLBlackC6
An automatic isn't a true sports car to some people. A corvette is a corvette to me but I wouldn't call either transmission junk.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
On a serious side now.....how much power do you think the A6 can handle before imploding?....now that is rabble rousing.
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From: Raleigh / Rolesville NC
Originally Posted by ALLBlackC6
You can't heal-toe an automatic. Unless Chevy has some type of rev-matching device coming soon like European cars, do the auto's have that?
So there is a very narrow range when pushing the button to shift and it acutlly shifts. The driver does need to learn when and what those RPM ranges are, especially for downshifting.
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From: Short Hills, NJ
Originally Posted by ALLBlackC6
Unless Chevy has some type of rev-matching device coming soon like European cars, do the auto's have that?
Originally Posted by SpinMonster
I'm done with clutches, dead rear diffs, and having to let go of the woman's hand while driving.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
Originally Posted by 98VertPDX
That's exactly why I ordered an A6, my wife can feel that I still love her even if I have a 'mistress' :-)
Now if the car would just get here...I would be happy ....
Now if the car would just get here...I would be happy ....
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From: Whidbey Island WA
What if you bought your car to have fun with and don't care about a tick or two out on the straight pipe? What about the more than 99% of the time these cars are taking us to work, the store, or are just getting a good back road flog? When comparing one to the other it seems to me that you have to do more than look at what can shift faster.
I'm one of those people that have driven a stick all my life. I enjoy the extra involvement. I'm not Mario and I don't feel any need to be Mario. A fellow I know asked me why I put a cat back on when I normally only do mods that add power. An easy one. I did it because I hated what I felt was a crappy exhaust note. It was detracting from my enjoyment of the car. The trans is the same kind of thing. I find the stick a lot more fun than the auto. That I did or did not gain performance by choosing a stick doesnt matter. I did gain what mattered to me. More fun.
IMO this car is about enjoyment and the only real question is which box gives the buyer the most. Flame suit on and prepared to be called a sissie for suggesting that all out performance is not the only metric that matters.
I'm one of those people that have driven a stick all my life. I enjoy the extra involvement. I'm not Mario and I don't feel any need to be Mario. A fellow I know asked me why I put a cat back on when I normally only do mods that add power. An easy one. I did it because I hated what I felt was a crappy exhaust note. It was detracting from my enjoyment of the car. The trans is the same kind of thing. I find the stick a lot more fun than the auto. That I did or did not gain performance by choosing a stick doesnt matter. I did gain what mattered to me. More fun.
IMO this car is about enjoyment and the only real question is which box gives the buyer the most. Flame suit on and prepared to be called a sissie for suggesting that all out performance is not the only metric that matters.
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From: Alexandria VA
Originally Posted by HITMAN99
Yup, I would put most M6 drivers in that category --- they would be far better off with the A6.
Some of you guys just need to let this die... if you think driving a manual makes you more of a man, then keep on believing it, but for Godsake, stop posting it.