My first Bicycle only had a rear brake. Now they have shocks and gears. Now that is cheating going through the woods and up hills How things have changed.

John

 

Since when is trying to keep a 1000+ rwhp car in check on the street with street tires a basic driving skill ? It's called added saftey for me and my passengers so I don't do doghnuts at 100mph if traction becomes an issue.

Dude quit being a hater. You seem like you are knowledgeable person from reading some of your posts but the way you come off is primitive and rude .
I'm definitely not the only one who thinks that on CF by this thread.
I read this whole thing. Boy was Tony Mamo with AFR and others pissed at you and rightfully so. I don't see your apology at the end of the thread when an independent shop proved the flow of the 195's matched their claims. Just 3 words after talking all that B.S. and you vanish.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1692831&page=6 Go to post 109 for a brief .


I spent my OWN money on a promising great product and am doing a review for everybody to observe, learn on and decide for themselves if it's right for them, WTF is wrong with that Mr. know it all had it all ?

It's used on Many Track Vipers ( purchased it from woodhouse Viper) and Corvettes including LG motorsports and Stoptech racing. It also comes stock on Lotus and Aston martin cars. The new 650hp SS vette will have a new state of the art racing traction control system.

WTF are you trying to say ,everybody above that uses a traction control device is an inferior driver and needs it or they're cheatin?


I'm sure there were people like you shooting their mouth off back when power steering and power brakes were introduced into racing saying that's cheating .

If I thought like you,
I would put my Old school DFI computer in my C6 that takes about 8 hours to fine tune in DOS mode. Then in your eyes I can say I'm a better tuner because it's more challenging .
I must be using a crutch now tuning my cars new 32bit PCM in Windows .


It's called Technology. e.g.
Microwave
electric toothbrush
intermittent wipers
run flat tires


I don't have a problem with your criticism of a product I have or am talking about. You got a little personal pal.

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electric toothbrush???????????
They have those?

 

Wow. I never knew a system like this existed! I would be really interested if it improved your 60 foot times at the track! Please keep me posted!

 

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Hey fafnir,

No problem bro, I share anything I think is worth while and this one might save someones A$$ some day

I purchased the RLTC8DIA unit with launch control .

I just ordered another one for one of my customers that I'm building a 1250HP LS7 Warhawk powered 2008 Z06.
I will probably have that one dialed in before mine with my work load at the moment.
I WILL be back to this thread with results from one of them I promise.

Being an engine builder/tuner my thoughts were the same

Here's their quotes about the lean issue you brought up:



" The idea of cutting fuel to an engine sets alarm bells ringing in engine builders, as they all know of the potential disaster of a high revving race engine running lean. Running in a lean combustion mode will elevate in-cylinder temperatures very rapidly, the denser the air/fuel charge, the more heat the lean burn can generate. Therefore it is vital that a fuel cut system will not cause a lean burn.

"The simplest way of preventing a lean burn is to remove more than 50% of the fuel from the pulsed delivery. A mixture will only ignite if the air/fuel ratio is within a tightly defined window, look at the efforts being put into making lean burn engines fire on very low air/fuel ratios (1:20 or more). Removing more than 50% of the fuel will cause an air fuel ratio of over 1:25 and will result in a complete miss-fire, with the unburned fuel passing out through the exhaust valve. Even if a high air/fuel ratio did manage to ignite, the energy available from the amount of petrol injected wouldn't be enough to elevate temperatures significantly. Of course the ideal system will remove 100% of the pulsed fuel delivery, allowing the cylinder to take a gulp of fresh air, and the in-cylinder temperature would remain virtually unaffected. Racelogic Traction Control operates in this manner - the complete injector pulse is removed so no possibility of lean burn can exist."

"Prolonged fuel cut on one particular cylinder would cause scavenging of the petrol lining, the inlet tracts, and when the next full fuel pulse arrived, it would be partially reduced in quantity by the re-wetting of these tracts. Therefore it is often important to manage a rotation of the cylinder cutting to prevent this situation from occurring.".



For those who feel their throttle foot has better control on a 1000hp especially at 100MPH read on:

"The fastest human reaction to a sense stimulus is 1/10th of a second, and the fastest acting throttle reacts in around the same time. This means there is a 2/10ths of a second lag between the wheel reaching a critical slip level, and the driver being able to change the amount of power being applied.

Many factors affect the ideal level of slip, wet / dry conditions, speed of the vehicle, lateral g-force (cornering), tire compound, tire pressures etc. Ideally the driver should be able to dial in a base level of slip that takes into account weather and tires, and the system should adjust automatically for speed of the vehicle and lateral g-force.

When cornering, the system should reduce the amount of slip available, to prevent lateral slip from occurring, and vary this amount depending on the speed of the vehicle. At high speed, low grip situations, this slip should be around 1-2% to maintain forward momentum, and at low speed high grip situations, this can be much higher."
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wow what great cars your building. i wish i had a friend with your brains around my area.

 

That vette is simply amazing.
Very nice work, I am looking forward to seeing the completion of your project and more videos.

 

go on map quest do the math . sounds fine and dandy but distance plays a factor . maybe one day at an event in the states or if i run into a quagmire (dilemma) that i can not solve. dont get me wrong the experience would be great.


njm

 

Was thinking about buying this system but never heard a final verdict. How did the system turn out? Is it worth the investment?

 

Car is in storage . Chicago Winters..
Results this Spring..
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Wow, that would take evreything but steering out of the driver's control on an auto....sorry Dennis.

This thing is actually letting you sample the tire traction and adds power up to your max foot position commanded amount unlike our traction control that simply cuts the throttle in bad conditions. It rides that line of breaking traction regardless of how much foot pressure you give it.

 

Holy hell, I completely forgot about this. We want updates damnit! To hell with winter

I hope it works out for you. But at $3400+ installed, I think I'll just spin 'em instead. But then I'm not at 1000rwhp. Good luck.

 

Looks pretty easy to install. Think i am going to have xtreme motorsports down here install it for me


Am I going to have to get it installed and beat you to the feedback?


My N/A 580rwhp produces alot of wheel spin accelerating out of turns. Think this may be a wise investment.

 

YES just what the doctor ordered so when will it be done?

 

Cant wait to see the results.

It would be interesting to do a few quarter mile runs with it turned off, and then with it on.

 

Looks like an incredible product.
My previous car had launch control and it worked amazingly well; CONSISTENT sub 1.6 second 60ft times on street tires

 

Ya, I more care about the track then the drag strip. My bottom end would probably be left on the strip if I really did a good 1/4mile

 

You might just do that being in Sunny Dry Arizona...
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usually. Although right now I'm looking out my window at rain. Did you buy it direct from racelogic, or find a vender that sold it. Also where the connectors you used ot make wiring cable easy to find?