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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I don't think we will see a bone stock C6 LS2 hitting 11s, I just don't think the critical elements (weight, traction, power) are all there to make it happen.
I do see the potential for low 12.3s even 12.2s (with 115+mph traps) coming from well driven 6 speed manuals in good air though.
Okay, I agree with your statement almost 100%. Now, I just sold my 02 Z06 and no way my new C6 would run with it through the 1/4 mile, maybe straight out top end. A friend of mine, had an 01 Z06 with minor bolt ons including drag radials and was running 11.9's @114mph. I would say that the 01 Z06 and C6 Z51 MN6 are about even though the 1/4 mile both bone stock. I've seen one C6 run 11.58@116 on video. The unusual thing about the video, it was recorded on Nov 2004. I don't know the mods. PM if you wish to see the video.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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I don't know some of these cars are pretty quick. My dad's 05 Z51 Auto went 12.71@111 stock added a vortex kit and it put down a 12.48@113. If the auto version can do that then hell anything is possible:P
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Fore58
Okay, I agree with your statement almost 100%. Now, I just sold my 02 Z06 and no way my new C6 would run with it through the 1/4 mile....
Are you just going by feel? The reason I ask is that I have a couple of friends with Z06's (both modified - putting out over 380 rwhp). I drove one of them back to back with the C6 Z51 coupe I had. His car felt worlds faster than mine. But side-by-side, I could stay with him for a few seconds, then he would pull away from me - but just barely. Same with my other friends Z06.

The C6 is faster than it feels. Anyone who is just going be SOTP feel will be surprised that the C6 really will run with a stock C5 Z06.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Are you just going by feel? The reason I ask is that I have a couple of friends with Z06's (both modified - putting out over 380 rwhp). I drove one of them back to back with the C6 Z51 coupe I had. His car felt worlds faster than mine. But side-by-side, I could stay with him for a few seconds, then he would pull away from me - but just barely. Same with my other friends Z06.

The C6 is faster than it feels. Anyone who is just going be SOTP feel will be surprised that the C6 really will run with a stock C5 Z06.
That's correct, I'm only going by feel. Needless to say, I did a lot of drag racing only with motorcycles street/track and street racing with cars. From what you stated above about the side-by-side makes sense. My friend 01 Z06 was making 355 hp with the 11.9's 1/4 mile passes. Since you have more experience with Vettes maybe you could answer this question. Would 18'' rear tires on a C6 make a difference or improvements through 1/4 mile?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Demented
I don't know some of these cars are pretty quick. My dad's 05 Z51 Auto went 12.71@111 stock added a vortex kit and it put down a 12.48@113. If the auto version can do that then hell anything is possible:P
Very good numbers, Demented. Make sure you get on the 1/4 mile list. It's hard to decide on the brand of CAI. However, I was thinking about this Vortex Kit.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fore58
That's correct, I'm only going by feel. Needless to say, I did a lot of drag racing only with motorcycles street/track and street racing with cars. From what you stated above about the side-by-side makes sense. My friend 01 Z06 was making 355 hp with the 11.9's 1/4 mile passes. Since you have more experience with Vettes maybe you could answer this question. Would 18'' rear tires on a C6 make a difference or improvements through 1/4 mile?
An 18" tire with a taller sidewall would likely hook up better, and there are more tire options. So yes, it could conceivably help you with the right combination.

BTW, I have two motorcycles myself, and did some roadracing for a few years about 20 years ago, but I've never drag raced motorcycles!
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I don't think we will see a bone stock C6 LS2 hitting 11s, I just don't think the critical elements (weight, traction, power) are all there to make it happen.
I do see the potential for low 12.3s even 12.2s (with 115+mph traps) coming from well driven 6 speed manuals in good air though.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fore58
I've seen one C6 run 11.58@116 on video. The unusual thing about the video, it was recorded on Nov 2004. I don't know the mods. PM if you wish to see the video.
I've seen that video and I remember when it was released
on the forum in 2004. Going by memory only, the car had
very minor engine bolt ons, like a vortex, possibly headers,
and that's about it. I do recall it had a 3.90 rear gear and
drag radials, which accounts for the good et.

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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by catpat8000
I've seen that video and I remember when it was released
on the forum in 2004. Going by memory only, the car had
very minor engine bolt ons, like a vortex, possibly headers,
and that's about it. I do recall it had a 3.90 rear gear and
drag radials, which accounts for the good et.

Pat
Would you say that this car possibly could run 11.9's without the 3.90 rear gear, keeping the drag radials and so-called minor mods? His 60' time appears to be around 1.7 or better.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Don't forget to add Cartek's red 2005 6 speed to the heads and cam list: 10.94@127.3
They also went 10.6@130+ with their new C6 twin turbo kit on an otherwise stock motor.

Did Cartek have the stock rubber
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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2005 (2006 Model year noted by 06)

Bone stock
DrRichie, Z51 .... 12.42 @ 113.9
Jschindler, Z51 .... 12.49 @ 114.9
Orange C6, Z51/auto .... 12.5 @ 112
Nine Ball, Z51 ..... 12.54 @ 113.24 (fan/stat mod)
Zippin Zee, Z51 .... 12.65 @ 111.65
Demented, Z51/auto ...... 12.71 @ 111
Shooter 49, Auto/3:15 .... 12.74 @108.67
06C6FVR, Z51 ....12.79 @ 112.65 06
Tommy D, Auto/3:15 .... 12.83 @109.44
Jchazr, Z51 ...... 12.86 @110.98
Ginny C6, Auto/F55 .... 12.97 @ 108
Tampa Vet, Auto/3:15 .... 12.98 @108
C6 Matt, Z51 ........... 13.25 @110.6
JDWK, Z51 ………. 13.25 @108.4
Rich28, Z51/auto ...... 13.62 @ 106.18

Cai
Demented, Z51/auto ........ 12.48 @ 113
Sditch, Z51/auto ...... 12.65 @ 111.39

Cat Back
WS6JJP, Z51 .... 12.41 @ 112.07
Jschindler, F55/6sp ....... 12.57 @113.04
FLC6, Auto/3:15 .... 12.7@
Thanos, Z51/auto .... 12.8 @
Zoli007, Z51 ....... 12.97 @ 111.22 06
Parkev. Z51....... 12.99 @ 111.25

Cat Back & Cai
FLC6, Auto/3:15 .... 12.55@
Icebourg, Z51 ..... 12.65 @114.56

Cat Back & Cai Nitrous
FLC6, Auto/3:15 .... 11.89 @ 120.20

Cat Back & Cai, Tune
Larry Chip, 6spd .... 12.5 @ 118

Headers & Cat back
CTVette05, auto/3:15 .... 12.37 @ 112.29

Headers & Cat back, Cai
2003Anniversary, Z51/auto..... 12.55 @111.98

Headers, Cat back, Cai & Tune
SScamero, Z51 .... 12.6 @ 114
1955 Belair, Z51/auto ....12.938 @ 108.60

Headers, Cat back, Heads & Cam, Converter
Blue Racer, Z51/auto..... 12.1 @ 115.36

Headers, Cat back, Cai &Tune, Heads & Cam, Intake
Mitchell242, 6spd ....... 13.12 @ 119

Heads & Cam, Intake
Xstang, Z51....... 12.6 @ 118

Tune
Flooznie, auto .......12.50 @ 115.2

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Originally Posted by Fore58
Would 18'' rear tires on a C6 make a difference or improvements through 1/4 mile?
A tire that will let you spin a little and then hook is what we all need. I tried letting the stock run flats break loose a little and then modulate the gas an ran a extremely quick 17.20 as I went sideways down the track. BTW Jim should apply for patent for his launch technique
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy D
A tire that will let you spin a little and then hook is what we all need. I tried letting the stock run flats break loose a little and then modulate the gas an ran a extremely quick 17.20 as I went sideways down the track. BTW Jim should apply for patent for his launch technique
Maybe I need to talk to Rickey Gadson.
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From the scan/tune section:

I wouldn't turn it all off completely. As David stated you can adjust the TQ by rpm and gear and still get the same effect without the loss of your safety systems. Below are some 1/4 mile runs that I made with 3 different settings of TC and AH. My previous best with all systems off before the tune and tweak of TQ settings was 12.99. These were done on a very traction limited track as noted by the 60' times. The previous best was also done on the same track. Also notice that the time with all systems on nearly matches my previous best with all off.

With all of the tuned cars busting differentials I am a little afraid of turning every thing off.

1st run: All systems on
60' 2.389
0-60 mph 4.976
330' 5.920
1/8 mile 8.712 @ 91.15
1000' 11.057
1/4 mile 13.026 @ 114.83


2nd run TC off:
60' 2.154
0-60 mph 4.314
330' 5.519
1/8 mile 8.253
1000' 10.568
1/4 mile 12.515 @ 116.13


3rd run TC and AH off:
60' 2.149
0-60 mph 4.221
330' 5.481
1/8 mile 8.190 @ 93.52
1000' 10.483
1/4 mile 12.412 @ 117.19
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sallen619
From the scan/tune section:

I wouldn't turn it all off completely. As David stated you can adjust the TQ by rpm and gear and still get the same effect without the loss of your safety systems. Below are some 1/4 mile runs that I made with 3 different settings of TC and AH. My previous best with all systems off before the tune and tweak of TQ settings was 12.99. These were done on a very traction limited track as noted by the 60' times. The previous best was also done on the same track. Also notice that the time with all systems on nearly matches my previous best with all off.

With all of the tuned cars busting differentials I am a little afraid of turning every thing off.

1st run: All systems on
60' 2.389
0-60 mph 4.976
330' 5.920
1/8 mile 8.712 @ 91.15
1000' 11.057
1/4 mile 13.026 @ 114.83


2nd run TC off:
60' 2.154
0-60 mph 4.314
330' 5.519
1/8 mile 8.253
1000' 10.568
1/4 mile 12.515 @ 116.13


3rd run TC and AH off:
60' 2.149
0-60 mph 4.221
330' 5.481
1/8 mile 8.190 @ 93.52
1000' 10.483
1/4 mile 12.412 @ 117.19
Mods and which track in So Cal, if it was So Cal? Good times.
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 01:55 AM
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Mods and which track in So Cal, if it was So Cal? Good times.
He stated traction limited track, I would like to know where, its does not sound like Cali. I get good traction at CaliDragway, Palmdale has poor traction but you can't run those times in that altitude. Formoso has good traction in Bakersfield, Carlsbad is closed and Pomona has great traction but its only open to us for Super Chevy. So please tell us where???
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Originally Posted by Tommy D
Did Cartek have the stock rubber
Nope, is this list being compiled of cars running strictly pure stock tires only?

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Originally Posted by Fore58
I've seen one C6 run 11.58@116 on video. The unusual thing about the video, it was recorded on Nov 2004. I don't know the mods. PM if you wish to see the video.
Was it a Precision Red coupe? If so that was also the (Cartek) car mentioned above, it was still in 'bolt ons only' trim and one of the first (if not the first) C6s in the 11s (and later first ever in the 10s) way back then, ran a best of 11.52@118+ with that set up I believe.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Was it a Precision Red coupe? If so that was also the (Cartek) car mentioned above, it was still in 'bolt ons only' trim and one of the first (if not the first) C6s in the 11s (and later first ever in the 10s) way back then, ran a best of 11.52@118+ with that set up I believe.
Thanks a lot LS1LT Yes, it is a precision red. I can link you to the video if you wish to view it. I have been trying to figure out, who is this guy for last 2 months now. Unbelieveable 1/4 mile pass. This car should be placed on the list immediately. There's a lot of questions to be answered on this one. And, I'm quite sure the guys would appreciate it. Excellent look out on your part.
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