C6 1/4 Mile Performance Challenge
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Larry is running almost 101mph in a car with similar mods carrying more weight (I would assume at least 150 pounds).... why is 102 so hard to believe when 100.75 isnt? 
I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Can someone with an LS2 C6 not do weight reduction and still be on the list?
As long as it's in a C6 I could care less.
Can someone with an LS2 C6 not do weight reduction and still be on the list?
As long as it's in a C6 I could care less.
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Larry is running almost 101mph in a car with similar mods carrying more weight (I would assume at least 150 pounds).... why is 102 so hard to believe when 100.75 isnt?
I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Can someone with an LS2 C6 not do weight reduction and still be on the list?
As long as it's in a C6 I could care less.
I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Can someone with an LS2 C6 not do weight reduction and still be on the list?
As long as it's in a C6 I could care less.
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Hey you guys are really getting your panties in a wad over this. 
Is it just because I have a west coast car in the 10's or that you can't find anyone else with my particular combination of mods and tune for comparison? Of course, it's only the LS2 guys that seem to have that problem.
I've provided far more information about my car, the mods, the race conditions, and other aspects than anyone else on this list. I've followed the posted rules that even require looking at a different website to find definitions and find nothing that would change anything.
I think you guys are going to have to resort to different tactics if your intentions are to discredit the results.
Maybe try things like Sacramento fog contains nitromethane or alien beings provided dilithium crystals. 
Is it just because I have a west coast car in the 10's or that you can't find anyone else with my particular combination of mods and tune for comparison?
Of course, it's only the LS2 guys that seem to have that problem.I've provided far more information about my car, the mods, the race conditions, and other aspects than anyone else on this list. I've followed the posted rules that even require looking at a different website to find definitions and find nothing that would change anything.
I think you guys are going to have to resort to different tactics if your intentions are to discredit the results.
Maybe try things like Sacramento fog contains nitromethane or alien beings provided dilithium crystals.
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St. Jude Donor '08
It's all good.I think the 2925 weight says it all. Theofel's car weighs 3250 IIRC. That right there is the difference. Mike knows he could make his car lighter - but it's his street car and he's happy with it. It does look great.
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Hey you guys are really getting your panties in a wad over this.
Is it just because I have a west coast car in the 10's or that you can't find anyone else with my particular combination of mods and tune for comparison? Of course, it's only the LS2 guys that seem to have that problem.
I've provided far more information about my car, the mods, the race conditions, and other aspects than anyone else on this list. I've followed the posted rules that even require looking at a different website to find definitions and find nothing that would change anything.
I think you guys are going to have to resort to different tactics if your intentions are to discredit the results. Maybe try things like Sacramento fog contains nitromethane or alien beings provided dilithium crystals.
Is it just because I have a west coast car in the 10's or that you can't find anyone else with my particular combination of mods and tune for comparison?
Of course, it's only the LS2 guys that seem to have that problem.I've provided far more information about my car, the mods, the race conditions, and other aspects than anyone else on this list. I've followed the posted rules that even require looking at a different website to find definitions and find nothing that would change anything.
I think you guys are going to have to resort to different tactics if your intentions are to discredit the results.
Maybe try things like Sacramento fog contains nitromethane or alien beings provided dilithium crystals. I crunched the numbers and there is a problem with your timeslip.
1. As I pointed out the 102 mph is very high for your horsepower regardless of the converter.
2. your two slips at Speedworld are nearly identical which gives a good baseline. The problem is that your incremental time from the 660' to 1000' is nearly identical for all three passes. (2.095, 2.097, and 2.097) your pass at Sacramento would need to be incrementally faster since your 1/8 and 1/4 mile trap speeds are greater.
3.your Sacramento pass picked up about 0.16 from the 60' to the 1/8, 0.00 from 660' to 1000', and 0.10 from 1000' to the 1/4. Something is off. Either there is a timing issue between the two tracks or something else is going on. maybe a little nitrous after the 60 ft to the 330 giving a little kick in the 1/8 at both tracks
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so i have way more mods, a 1.41 60 ft 10.62 et and i dont hit 102, also that great east coast atco air, and of course weight reduction, if he was 2925, i was lighter
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St. Jude Donor '08
If the 102 was real, I think his 1/8 ET would be lower.
And I hate to be harping on the guy, he does his own work and drives many miles to get the slip. I have to respect those facts.
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I still don't believe the timer on the 102...if you lay out his slip and Tony's like I did above, they make good sense, and the ET's tie out, all except the 102. If his 1/8 mph was 99 nobody would raise an eyebrow.
If the 102 was real, I think his 1/8 ET would be lower.
And I hate to be harping on the guy, he does his own work and drives many miles to get the slip. I have to respect those facts.
If the 102 was real, I think his 1/8 ET would be lower.
And I hate to be harping on the guy, he does his own work and drives many miles to get the slip. I have to respect those facts.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I think his e/t down the strip makes sense, and are similar to Theofel's, it's just that 102 mph that looks odd to me. A 102 mph should be a 6.8 or better I think 1/8.
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A 325# weight difference and 500+ feet DA can easily account for the ET difference and still leave some leftover for his extra HP. If Mike dropped to equal weight and comparable DA, he'd easily gain .4 to run in the mid 10's. But then he'd be the target of the non-believers.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I still don't believe the timer on the 102...if you lay out his slip and Tony's like I did above, they make good sense, and the ET's tie out, all except the 102. If his 1/8 mph was 99 nobody would raise an eyebrow.
If the 102 was real, I think his 1/8 ET would be lower.
And I hate to be harping on the guy, he does his own work and drives many miles to get the slip. I have to respect those facts.
If the 102 was real, I think his 1/8 ET would be lower.
And I hate to be harping on the guy, he does his own work and drives many miles to get the slip. I have to respect those facts.
The MPH didn't tie out in the 1/4. If he would've went faster then it would have made sense, but he went slower than my mph in the 1/4?
Christopher had his buddies LS2 Cammed, geared, stalled, bolt ons LS2 there and the best he could muster up was a 10.85@125+mph. Now are you gonna tell me that Christopher's friend with an all out LS2 with more power is going to go slower on the same day as this guy? Christopher's jaw must have been hanging when he seen HOXXOX go faster since I believe Christopher has been helping, working, advising his buddies C6 LS2 Vette. Remember, if HOXXOX had great air, so did Christopher's friend.
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St. Jude Donor '08
A 325# weight difference and 500+ feet DA can easily account for the ET difference and still leave some leftover for his extra HP. If Mike dropped to equal weight and comparable DA, he'd easily gain .4 to run in the mid 10's. But then he'd be the target of the non-believers. 
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A 325# weight difference and 500+ feet DA can easily account for the ET difference and still leave some leftover for his extra HP. If Mike dropped to equal weight and comparable DA, he'd easily gain .4 to run in the mid 10's. But then he'd be the target of the non-believers. 
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St. Jude Donor '08
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, i watched your videos, all had three shifts, now if you did start in second hit nitrous the rpm would go up quick enough so it would shift into 4th. explaining the 102mph and 3 shifts also once you turned the spray off, it would be like letting off the throttle and in forth two soon lugging you down to those 23mph back half
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Hi Joe,
The MPH didn't tie out in the 1/4. If he would've went faster then it would have made sense, but he went slower than my mph in the 1/4?
Christopher had his buddies LS2 Cammed, geared, stalled, bolt ons LS2 there and the best he could muster up was a 10.85@125+mph. Now are you gonna tell me that Christopher's friend with an all out LS2 with more power is going to go slower on the same day as this guy? Christopher's jaw must have been hanging when he seen HOXXOX go faster since I believe Christopher has been helping, working, advising his buddies C6 LS2 Vette. Remember, if HOXXOX had great air, so did Christopher's friend.
The MPH didn't tie out in the 1/4. If he would've went faster then it would have made sense, but he went slower than my mph in the 1/4?
Christopher had his buddies LS2 Cammed, geared, stalled, bolt ons LS2 there and the best he could muster up was a 10.85@125+mph. Now are you gonna tell me that Christopher's friend with an all out LS2 with more power is going to go slower on the same day as this guy? Christopher's jaw must have been hanging when he seen HOXXOX go faster since I believe Christopher has been helping, working, advising his buddies C6 LS2 Vette. Remember, if HOXXOX had great air, so did Christopher's friend.
Now, wanna try explaining why the third Arizona car with no changes after running 11.11 two weeks earlier at Speedworld could only manage a 11.20 in CA?
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