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Melting Slicks
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I think a lot of the seat of the pants feel when going to a bigger manifold is b/c you are getting more air at partial throttle input with the larger setup. When I went with a FAST 90 over my ported LS6 setup I could've swore I gained a bunch of torque in the low end b/c at partial throttle the engine was much more responsive. But upon dyno checking I actually lost a little low and mid range torque at WOT, but gained about 6hp at peak.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'11-'12
Just a thought....
It looks like you still have the PVC delete that your tuner installed way back. You may want to rethink that...having those two open hoses just hanging under your car where they can suck in dirt and debris instead of using a catch can (or using the stock PVC system) may bring some major problems to all your hard work.
It looks like you still have the PVC delete that your tuner installed way back. You may want to rethink that...having those two open hoses just hanging under your car where they can suck in dirt and debris instead of using a catch can (or using the stock PVC system) may bring some major problems to all your hard work.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Just a thought....
It looks like you still have the PVC delete that your tuner installed way back. You may want to rethink that...having those two open hoses just hanging under your car where they can suck in dirt and debris instead of using a catch can (or using the stock PVC system) may bring some major problems to all your hard work.
It looks like you still have the PVC delete that your tuner installed way back. You may want to rethink that...having those two open hoses just hanging under your car where they can suck in dirt and debris instead of using a catch can (or using the stock PVC system) may bring some major problems to all your hard work.
the guy who did the initial writeup has A nice Can and will probably go with that.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08-'09-'11-'12
Take a look at the Cartek Can....Joe did a write up on the one I gave him....I think it is the best one out there.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Take a look at the Cartek Can....Joe did a write up on the one I gave him....I think it is the best one out there.
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I've removed it, as my oil was getting really dirty really fast. I think a daily driver like mine needs some vacuum to get rid ofnthe blow by while in traffic. If a car wasn't used like mine it would probably be fine. I'm using a regular catch can now and it's catching a lot of oil so it's working.
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You will need more than one fluid change Leon, trust me.
You are going to be at the limit of the stock clutch IMHO based on my observations of nodded c6Z's, but you should be ok for your use. My friend Retrotech had 550/460 in his Z on the stock clutch and ran 10.68 @ 133 and got 1.5's on the stock clutch. At that power level the clutch is the weak point and cannot handle harder launches or the pedal just falls to the floor if you try to launch harder.
He is a hotshoe driver, but it gives you something to shoot for.
Here is a vid. I never get tired of watching it. Lol.
You are going to be at the limit of the stock clutch IMHO based on my observations of nodded c6Z's, but you should be ok for your use. My friend Retrotech had 550/460 in his Z on the stock clutch and ran 10.68 @ 133 and got 1.5's on the stock clutch. At that power level the clutch is the weak point and cannot handle harder launches or the pedal just falls to the floor if you try to launch harder.
He is a hotshoe driver, but it gives you something to shoot for.
Here is a vid. I never get tired of watching it. Lol.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
seeing it. Going to test it out now. Then the tractionmonsters.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Thanks to our buddy Clevite Kid for the pics.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ing-in-c6.html
oh and the c5 spring kept my clutch pedal down too. Don't bother with it if you race.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Ported 102 really goes.
Super easy. I take them out at the drag strip in 30 seconds. Put a rag down on the floor as they are greasy and they fall out.
Thanks to our buddy Clevite Kid for the pics.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ing-in-c6.html
oh and the c5 spring kept my clutch pedal down too. Don't bother with it if you race.
Thanks to our buddy Clevite Kid for the pics.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ing-in-c6.html
oh and the c5 spring kept my clutch pedal down too. Don't bother with it if you race.
I may need A tune in spite of the increase from the " PORTED FAST 102.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Wow, Problems. Clutch OK now. Gave the Car A Performance test this morning. Got CEL. PO171 & PO173. Luckily I had my predator with and pulled over to check it out. Cleared the CEL. Then system indicated I was out of gas. LOW FUEL. Gauge was pegged empty. Went to Gas Station and filled. Thing is only took 10 GAL of GAS then it was overflowing. Sounds weird and done A short scan on the way back home. I want to tell you the Car goes like it never did. Tach seems like it wants to go to 10,000 immediately glad the REV Limit is set to 6900.
I may need A tune in spite of the increase from the " PORTED FAST 102.
I may need A tune in spite of the increase from the " PORTED FAST 102.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Joe that dual gas tank sensor at low fuel The Logic tells me it inhibits wot
or shuts down the fuel injector banks. I guess Ill have to get the schematics out and see. It only did it that one time and the scan on the predator looked good. Ill do A more comprehensive one with my HP TUNERS. The Predator is just A nice tool to have along without dragging the Laptop.
or shuts down the fuel injector banks. I guess Ill have to get the schematics out and see. It only did it that one time and the scan on the predator looked good. Ill do A more comprehensive one with my HP TUNERS. The Predator is just A nice tool to have along without dragging the Laptop.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Joe that dual gas tank sensor at low fuel The Logic tells me it inhibits wot
or shuts down the fuel injector banks. I guess Ill have to get the schematics out and see. It only did it that one time and the scan on the predator looked good. Ill do A more comprehensive one with my HP TUNERS. The Predator is just A nice tool to have along without dragging the Laptop.
or shuts down the fuel injector banks. I guess Ill have to get the schematics out and see. It only did it that one time and the scan on the predator looked good. Ill do A more comprehensive one with my HP TUNERS. The Predator is just A nice tool to have along without dragging the Laptop.
p0171 & p0173 will be accompanied by LTFT's +25 on a scan. Did you see that?
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
LtFT's were at -3.45 or something near that with 12.89A/F . Timing was in the 26 Deg area. I did not have the cel's when I did the Scan.
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St. Jude Donor '08
You need to scan if and when you get the CEL again. It takes some idling to set the CEL after cleared code but the LTFT's will go up quickly if you have a vacuum leak. Might be as simple as the MAF coming loose from the silicone.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10
Definately check it out Joe. Thanks for all your help here. Too good to be true to just install A set of Heads and your off & running. The Car is performing Quite well. This 102 is PORTED and it works. I wish I had it on At G.BERG last week. Who knows what it may have made.
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Definately check it out Joe. Thanks for all your help here. Too good to be true to just install A set of Heads and your off & running. The Car is performing Quite well. This 102 is PORTED and it works. I wish I had it on At G.BERG last week. Who knows what it may have made.
Oh did I mention that you need to get the .drf files!! We will be able to really analyize the difference then. Oh the HP tuners scans would be good too.
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Definately check it out Joe. Thanks for all your help here. Too good to be true to just install A set of Heads and your off & running. The Car is performing Quite well. This 102 is PORTED and it works. I wish I had it on At G.BERG last week. Who knows what it may have made.
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Dont count the fast 92 out yet.
I know the FAST102 Feels like it has more snap than the PORTED 92
which we all know is overported. I sold the stock heads so I cant show this unless I pull the 102 off which is no big deal 10 MIN and its off, Fuel
rails and everything.
I have some ideas on the 92 which we know has bigger runners. If the
problem area was corrected It may very well run as good or better than
the 102. Im working out A deal with the tuner to do A A/B test and in retrospect at the time of the dyno the swapouts would have been more time consuming and getting everybody nervous. I would like to do this
before moving on to phase of the build.
which we all know is overported. I sold the stock heads so I cant show this unless I pull the 102 off which is no big deal 10 MIN and its off, Fuel
rails and everything.
I have some ideas on the 92 which we know has bigger runners. If the
problem area was corrected It may very well run as good or better than
the 102. Im working out A deal with the tuner to do A A/B test and in retrospect at the time of the dyno the swapouts would have been more time consuming and getting everybody nervous. I would like to do this
before moving on to phase of the build.