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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 02:10 AM
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Ultimately you might want both...a blower cam with a nice centrifugal blower kit can transform an otherwise stock LS3 into a total beast.
But I agree with most that if choosing only one the blower might be the better route.

Check out the Cartek Racing / HPE kit:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...c5-and-c6.html
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 06x6spdGTO
I guess I'm a little confused on the Boost lost during shift for supercharged applications. my magnuson boost up right away!! And the added low end Torque is great for the heavy 3800lb GTO that its in. With flat Torque curve of a Positive Displacement supercharger and instant boost ability I would find it hard to see a equally chassis/geared/RWHP N/A car run neck and neck with a postive displacement supercharged car.

Heres a little video proof to prove what im talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11DDP75735c

(The Cammed camaro should have a gearing advantage with the 3.73's and would probly dyno higher being an M6 vs A6.)


Point is: There plenty of different ways to make power. Nitrous is easy to install and remove and very cost effective if you want to consider that route. There is no waiting Turbo LAG, very little added weight, BUT youll have to watch you bottle pressure and keep the bottle full.
Superchargers are expensive but my GTO got the same Highway mileage BEFORE my M112H and After my M112H (on stock pulleys). Yes, Heat Soak is a major PITA but there are way to combat it.
Cams are great and the right setup will yeild some impressive numbers with decent drivability. I try to avoid most "SHOP CAR" numbers and some tend to be more of a marketing ploy and a bit inflated. See if you can find someone on a forum who has installed the same parts themselves and tuned the car else where. But a cam setup is not easily redone and put back to stock.

In my own Vette I would never consider putting a Positive Displacement blower on the car as it doesnt need GOBS of low end torque to get the car moving (weight factor as my GTO is a pretty heavy) and if you've ever drove a PD blower car they are VERY hard to hook up on street tires! I would rather opt for the Centri blower line of Superchargers for my own Vette.

But do some serious research before you pick your poison!! See if there are some local guys with LSx platforms boosted, sprayed, or cammed for you to go for a ride with.

Just my $0.02: The LS3 Heads perform AWESOME with a little boost!!
Whewww, I made IBTL. This isn't LS2GTO.com, you can't post street racing vids. Oh well, it was a good thread. As far as that outcome, we're not talking about roll racing on the highway. Run a couple quarter miles back to back at a legal track, sitting in staging and the outcome would be slightly different.

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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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ZR1 cam is really a waste of $$$ for the performance you get. If you are going with a cam get one that actually give you some good performance. Personally I would get a ECS kit and then have some fun.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Beatitt
Whewww, I made IBTL. This isn't LS2GTO.com, you can't post street racing vids. Oh well, it was a good thread. As far as that outcome, we're not talking about roll racing on the highway. Run a couple quarter miles back to back at a legal track, sitting in staging and the outcome would be slightly different.
Just posting some simple FACTS!!! Thats fine in the stagging lanes as well. Most of the time ppl with blowers tend to shut the car down in the stagging lane! If you had a 450whp NA car I highly doubt it would have as flat of a torque curve as a 450whp PD blower car. IF you can make the Blown Car hook just as hard as the N/A car its gunna be a bad outcome for the N/A guy on the street or track! (Remember Equal Gearing and chassis)

And yes I am a member of LS2GTO and CorvetteForum/Ls1tech/Camaro5 etc... I don't nut swing on one platform and think I'm god almighty as Im into everything GM/LSX.

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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 06x6spdGTO
Just posting some simple FACTS!!! Thats fine in the stagging lanes as well. Most of the time ppl with blowers tend to shut the car down in the stagging lane! If you had a 450whp NA car i highly doubt it would have as flat of a torque curve as a 450whp PD blower car. IF you can make the Blown Car hook just as hard as the N/A car its gunna be a bad out come for the N/A guy on the street or track!

And yes I am a member of LS2GTO and CorvetteForum/Ls1tech/Camaro5 etc... I don't nut swing on one platform and think im god almighty as Im into everything GM/LSX.

You seem like a prime example of why most ppl think Corvette owners are high on themselves!
Dude, you don't even know me, so thanks for opening your mouth. I am long time member over on LS2GTO (John Doe) and had a GTO for years. I was stating the obvious that you are not allowed to talk about street racing or post street racing videos on this particular forum, check the rules. So please tell me how stating that the thread is going to get locked because someone doesn't pay attention to the rules makes me high on myself?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Beatitt
Dude, you don't even know me, so thanks for opening your mouth. I am long time member over on LS2GTO (John Doe) and had a GTO for years. I was stating the obvious that you are not allowed to talk about street racing or post street racing videos on this particular forum, check the rules. So please tell me how stating that the thread is going to get locked because someone doesn't pay attention to the rules makes me high on myself?
Dont come off like a such a "HOT HEAD". And since your soooo up too snuff on the rules maybe you should check this one out:

Members who quote the inappropriate link/images or comments in their reply, are held equally accountable as the member who originally posted it.

"Oh well it was a good thread," until you decided to pull the thread completely off topic.
I'm Out on this one!

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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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I'm a big fan of the cam.

A lot of words in this thread. I'll let my cam do the talking. Results in sig.

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Personally I'd go with a big nasty cam and a bottle of juice in the back...nothing will touch the instant hit of power that a nitrous gives you.

The only naysayers to nitrous will be those that have never personally used it.

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