Double post...

 

I don't need pictures mister high and think your mighty with no common sense, I didnt start a thread about pulling the fuse for free mister thrifty, so my car is loud, and start a kindergarten do it yourself thread so everyone would think you was the corvette technology genius. and you still call your cai that you sell air ram is that your deceiving marketing skills that you threw a rock at vararam you are just here to market your company for free, why not pay to be a vendor. that's right your to cheap, you would rather steal it for free when ever you can yes and another thing my vararam was custom made for my car with air vanes directing the air to limit turbulence and a by the et mph times it works

 

maybe you need a picture
you can erase a post 100% you dont have to edit it and say something stupid like double post

 

LOL... No rocks at VR here... I like the intake. I have nothin bad to say about your intake nor had I even remotely suggested it was a bad intake. I believe it works... I just said its gains are not from "RAM AIR"..

Also, just because I own a business does not mean I'm not an enthusiast... I haven't tried to sell you anything.

Hey genius, check your email notifications... They give a highlight to the response... You will see the "Double Post" or what ever it is you think I deleted in there... Also, I did not have the option to "Delete" on my phone... Otherwise I would have done so...

And I thought rocks where dense!

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

 

OK so who has cut the holes, where and what size? I was thinking directly under the air filter itself.

 

The stock filter is opened on the bottom of the filter. I have found from experience that having a hole directly under the filters mouth can cause turbulences. Most after market filters have a plate across the bottom which will act as a diffuser and might help with the turbulences. With a stock filter, getting the fresh air in without a direct force at the mouth of the filter would be better.
Of course, a tune can take care of any problems.
I have a VetteAir, which puts the air at the filter. I didn't have a problem with surging until I decided to 'punch it'. I tuned mine out alone with a few other items, but diffusing the air would be cheaper.

 

Lot of discussion on what has been a known fact since the Muscle Car days of the '60s. You are absolutely, 100% correct. There is a scale that could be made of the efficiency to accomplish this, and maybe Vararam is at the top, but the bottom line is denser (cooler) air has more O2 and gives more power, period. And absent some mechanical means like a blower from a SC or turbo, the intake will take in just what it needs, hot or cool by volume. Cool = hp gain; hot = hp loss.

 

Propping the shroud is still the best choice, imo, over cutting the shroud. The shape of the opened shroud channels the air up to the filter as it comes through the grill, no turbulence is created, and it is a far higher volume of flow, constantly refreshing the air to the filter with pure outside air. And the added benefit is not having to change anything on the car that can't be put back to stock in 3 minutes.

 

I thought I read that if you have the Z51 option you should not prop open the bottom, but I don't remember why it was said. I have the Z51 Option on my 08.

 

There has been some discussion on that, because of coolers. I have a base, so no issue. Check some of the posts for that specifically. My '06 Z51 wasn't a problem, but not sure on the LS3 versions.

 

You guys can go back and forth forever. All I know is that I am VERY happy with my Vararam. And it was FREE, which is even better!

 

People used to be somewhat respectful on this forum and even on OT, now all people do is B!tch at each other.
One thing I do know is that Santa is getting me a Vararam for my C6 for Christmas and I cant use it until May when my car is out of storage, but I have 5 months to work on the install!

 

I think its a great choice, however I'm sure it wont take 5 months to install it.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

 

I guess you sent it with a home made computer or home made phone, or its just really slow with the home made stuff because I still havnt received an e mail

 

yes you did try and sell me something when you use to post all the links to your site with video of the install until the forum moderators shut you down for breaking the rules and you still would sneak it in every few posts

 

Not necessarily, I experienced a slight tip in surge on the freeway when the center portion of the shroud started to pop out. As soon as I duct taped it shut, the surge went away. This has occurred with both the oem air filter and the Halltech MF103. Jim Halltech also recommends not to open the center portion of the shroud with his air intakes for this reason. I do have the cutouts on the ends of the shroud for cold air and have no issues. The LS3/7 MAF senor is sensitive to turbulent air. I did my homework and data logged my fuel trims on the highway with the center portion of the shroud open. The fuel trims were erratic enough to cause a surge. Just letting those who are considering this mod a little warning.

 

This is good information... Do you have any pics of how you modified it? I think this would be great for the DIY'fer looking to get more air to the filter without causing the turbulence...

I'm planning on an intake for mine in the near future, hence my interest on the topic... Still have not made up my mind.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

 

Yes Mike.. please post. I've read a bunch of threads and am getting confused by all the different ways to do the FREE mod. Is one to assume, the cuts on the corners , instead of the middle, may also have less chance of any water ingestion too? And.. is it possible to open the shroud on the corners without cutting?

And.. I agree with Air Ram... not much ramming going on. Colder air, absolutely. VR probably a good product, but it's not for me.

It's a cost to benefit ratio thing. Free mod maybe 2/10th's, VR maybe 4/10's. Since I'm not after any records, I'm fine with that.

 

what I cant understand is how dumb the nay Sayers are and also cheap, you can afford to buy a C6 corvette but cry about $400.00 for a product that has been proven, do all the nay Sayers dis believe the gains in the proven 1/4 mile list, also its a money back guarantee. you follow what one person says about the gain is just cold air, yet cant explain the 5 mph and 5/10s i gained in the 1/4 in just the first 100 ft, because the cold air would be in the engine compartment feeding the engine after the first 100 ft, the iat would be ambient after that 100 ft, cant you understand that. I guess that's why we with vararam are that much faster, and the rest are that much slower, dollar to hp the vararam is one of the best mods and cheapest mods. you cheap no it all at the bottom of the performance list should stay in the wax section

 

JBOMX363, Now look what you have done! You agreed that the VR was perhaps a good intake but not what your looking for, yet you where still blasted for thinking differently than Dennis ... I guess for Dennis to agree with any of us, we would all first need to buy all the same mods he has and agree his is the best EVER... Because everything Dennis has is better than anything anyone else has... His VR intake is better than all the other VR intake as well!!! LMAO

I have noticed a trend with Dennis... He rarely adds anything to a post and quick to attack anyone with an opinion other than his own. He resorts to name calling and trash talking when he has clearly lost a friendly debate. Apparently he is incapable of appreciating anything different than his own thoughts and beliefs. It's no wonder people can't take him seriously...

I think he is a very bad rep for VR!

But hey he has a cool car so we have to give him some credit!

Also, I have read several write ups on the VR about heating issues during track day events. The VR appears to be a great intake for short burst but blocks a large portion of the radiator making road course cars run hot. This is coming from those who have actual experience with the VR. So this leads me to believe the VR may be a great intake with short burst as with 1/4 mile inline racing, it may not be the best choice for those who run on a road course track.

SPEED SAFE