That is a hefty paycheck for leaking a few poor quality CADs.

They probably could of had someone do it for $50.

On the other hand. GM is famous for wasting money in a big way.

 

The quality wasn't great, but you have to admit the LT1 CAD was dead-on correct:

 

A "courtesy delivery" would still require the preferred customer to pay for for the car.

PS This is all in fun and I for one had the time of my life when keeks was giving the forum those juicy tidbits.
We should not forget that this is only a car..

 

True. Again I bet most would have done it for a $50 check or less.

The keeks leaks have been fun. In time we will know if they are 100% correct. If they are I still wonder if anyone will lose a job or contract. The entire thing is bizzare.

 

There's also the possibility that keeks is just a guy who has some friends who work at GM or a supplier and they know he's a Corvette guy and showed him some drawings.

 

What a bunch of BS. Go post that right now on the C6 Z06 forum and feel yourself get flogged. Tell them they're all stupid and should have known better. Go, do it right now - if you're so confident ...that would be entertaining. The issues I'm speaking have NOT been known for years - nothing in the 100K+ views of multiple recent threads supports that BS. You're obviously somewhat uninformed.

Some C7 hopefuls, and some like yourself, are trying to tell themselves - "glad it's them and not me" - "it can't be a problem with the new C7 that I'm looking forward to." You just don't want anything to tarnish your dream C7, so you trash anybody else who raises any issue. In this case, this is still a Corvette we're talking about, and we're raising the issue of GM with the Corvette - past, present and future. And, if you still cling to an idea that this quality control issue goes back for years - then you're supporting my point that it obviously could also continue forward - with the C7

 

VETTEMANN, I should not respond because I do not know the full extent of this but I do know that your 427 is under warranty . I would never worry about a car from a major manufacturer that is still under warranty.

I am quite sure I must be missing a piece of this puzzle.

 

I wouldn't tell any of the current owners that they are stupid because it's inaccurate and not very nice. At least those who frequent the Z06 forum are complaining in the proper section. I stand by my statements. Some of the problems surrounding the LS7 have been known for years, even outside of this forum. There isn't anything wrong with buying the car knowing that the issues exist, but don't act surprised by them. I have spoken with many Z06 owners who have complained about the valve issue since I began showing my car in 2009. You can stomp your feet and cry about how your LS7 is going to explode, or you can drive it and enjoy it like so many owners do every day. Why sweat the small stuff?

 

Totaly agree, particlarly the last line.

 

IMO, if there was a payoff, it was for REMOVING the CADs, not for releasing them. The deal would also have included a requirement that he say nothing about the deal, because that would validate the CADs. The reasoning behind the deal would be that his lawyers convinced GM that by the time GM's case was settled, the C7 would be out, so the damage would be done. Further, there is no garantee that GM would win their case. And lastly, even if GM won, the sympathy vote would go against GM.

By the way, I think the CADs are still on the Jalopnik site.

 

Fair question. And any point like this is well-taken if somebody buys their Corvette just to use it as a regular driver. But think if you buy the car as more of a 'collector.' A 3-yr warranty is of little matter then - instead you are counting on the quality and reliability of the car - as you may be planning to keep the car 10, 15 or more years. Such is the case with with 427 Convertible. The 60th Anniversary Edition. Last of the 427s, etc. And GM totally plays this up in marketing the car. And the factory extended production into February precisely because demand for the 427 was so strong - lots of folks jumping on this (get one of the last great Corvettes, etc.) And then the 'fine print' ...enjoy it for 3 years, but we cant really say it will be reliable after that... C'mon, GM needs to step up here and stand behind this $80K+ marketing scheme...

 

Thanks for the info Mr. Keeks

 

Powertrain warranty is 5yr/100k.

 

How hard and indiscreet would GM or C&D... have to be to chime in here? Adding little bits of information to steer public opinion, or just to see what it is. It might even be YOU!

 

Because, many car owners plan of driving their cars past the manufacturers warranty period. I purchased a new 1999 Mercedes with FSS. It came with a 5year/50,000 mile warranty. Mercedes said to use regular oil, combined with the FSS which meant driving the car for up to a year or 10,000 miles between changes. There was a class action lawsuit and M-B agreed to extend the warranty to 10 years/150,000 miles and changed the owners manual to state that you had to use synthetic oil meeting M-B 229.5 specs. Running non synethic oil might not have caused that much of a problem on low mileage engines during the first 5 years of ownership, but who wants to own an expensive car that burns oil, etc, because M-B screwed up by originally spec'ing the wrong oil to be used with their FSS.

That is a great example of why having the attitude that just because the car has a warranty, don't worry about it, is wrong.

Just because an engine has a five year warranty dosen't mean that that should be the life expectancy of that engine.

Do you believe that every new car should have a built in 5 year planned obsolescence from the factory? I didn't plan on spending $80,000 for my LS7 equipped Z06, just to have a 5 year life expectancy. I also didn't plan on having the resale value(like what happened with GM's diesel powered Oldsmobiles and Cadillac's from the 1980's or the resale value of the early Vega's with the oil burning aluminuim engines) fall to scrap value because everyone was afraid of purchasing a used GM car that had a diesel engine, or an oil burning engined Vega.

 

I don't understand what you want. A lifetime warranty? Is your view that the end of the warranty period (whatever that is) constitutes "planned obsolesence" for GM or anyone else?

Jimmy

 

Back to the C7........

Regarding the rear; I do not love what I have seen but in comparision, the C7 overall looks like work of fine art compared to the GT-R that reminds me of a Hoover Vac.

 

Of couse not, but when I buy a product I expect it to last longer then the warranty period.

 

Understood, but you are making the opposite point you intended to make, I think.

If you need to compare the C7 (renderings, anyway) to a car that reminds you of a Hoover Vac, then your standards are quite low, don't you agree? Granted, it looks better than the GT-R, but the GT-R has carved its own design niche.

Try comparing the C7 to cars you like to look at. Does it still come off as a work of fine art?

 

I LIKED IT BETTER WHEN IT WAS DIRECTLY COMPARED! MY OLDER VETTE REMINDED ME OF A TOY.