C7-E85-Ring-June!
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Sure!
The tall 1st already has room for the E85, and can already be faster. That's really got Joe steaming when I proposed that reality. Anyway, Joes quite so I must be tracking pretty good now.
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Lighter Car?
What?
But, a lighter car would need larger tires. It is called a smaller coefficient of friction. A little basic engineering can get you into all kinds of ....
.And the Z07 isn't lighter!
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Well, good, maybe C7 can really shine on bicycle tires then, coefficient of friction will be considerably smaller, never mind inability to lay the power to the ground or loss of handling. If your statement was true, base C6 would outrun C6 Z06 as well.
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Not going to do this forever!
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Another vague statement. What does "competitive" really mean? "Slightly" slower? Keeping up with Z06? Z06 with run flats or with Sport Cups? Ceramic brakes? Standard brakes? Interesting that no comparisson with base C6? This should be easy, C7 should have lap times much better than base C6, why no such statement? By the same account, Z06 has very competitive times with ZR1, why not just bump it up a notch?
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Sorry man to burst your bubble, but 90+ percent of the difference in on-track performance between a z07 and base z06 is TIRES, period. The base Goodyear s are absolutely horrendous. And yeah ive driven a carbon 2011. F55 does feel much better on the street for sure though.
I hate the factory GY's as much as anyone & have been vocal about it. But give the devil his due,when new the GY's have very good lateral grip and do well on the track. Unfortunately,when slightly worn,they howl like a banshee & lose grip at around the 4-5k mile mark.
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Excuse me!
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Checking this out!
Another vague statement. What does "competitive" really mean? "Slightly" slower? Keeping up with Z06? Z06 with run flats or with Sport Cups? Ceramic brakes? Standard brakes? Interesting that no comparisson with base C6? This should be easy, C7 should have lap times much better than base C6, why no such statement? By the same account, Z06 has very competitive times with ZR1, why not just bump it up a notch?
The C7 has to be efficient the so called wide body is not. Every inefficient element has been cancelled so far in the C7. The big mouth is replaced by the smaller C6 base like front intake scheme, and the E85 bump, all lessoning drag running cooler. The bigger wheels, tires, and flares are replaced by smaller ones decreasing unsprung weight and wasteful drag. The Super Sports are supposed to be awesome tires and they certainly play a big role in their C7 design exercise. Their use and all the C7 torque is converted into less unsprung weight and more aero down force. It all makes perfect sense for a smaller battleship that moves like a Stingray!
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The switch to Michelin tires is going to help the C7 on the track and at the ring, no doubt, but the sizes compared to the current Z06 are going to hurt it a bit. The real question is what the power rating of the LT1 in the C7 is going to be set at. I predict the original C6 Z06 time to be in trouble, but I doubt the C7 is going to come near the Z07/carbon editions in terms of time. That will probably be the stock C7 Z06 goal and, hopefully, there will be a C7 Z06 "carbon" edition down the road that will push the line back another few seconds.
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Maybe!
The switch to Michelin tires is going to help the C7 on the track and at the ring, no doubt, but the sizes compared to the current Z06 are going to hurt it a bit. The real question is what the power rating of the LT1 in the C7 is going to be set at. I predict the original C6 Z06 time to be in trouble, but I doubt the C7 is going to come near the Z07/carbon editions in terms of time. That will probably be the stock C7 Z06 goal and, hopefully, there will be a C7 Z06 "carbon" edition down the road that will push the line back another few seconds.
The bottom line data will be clear for all to see.
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Yeah, I thought the same thing so I checked it out. Today's Z06 seems be the works with the possibly the exclusion of PTM, MPSC's and the extra fiber. But, considering all the success that today's Z06 has mustered that is doubtful!
The C7 has to be efficient the so called wide body is not. Every inefficient element has been cancelled so far in the C7. The big mouth is replaced by the smaller C6 base like front intake scheme, and the E85 bump, all lessoning drag running cooler. The bigger wheels, tires, and flares are replaced by smaller ones decreasing unsprung weight and wasteful drag. The Super Sports are supposed to be awesome tires and they certainly play a big role in their C7 design exercise. Their use and all the C7 torque is converted into less unsprung weight and more aero down force. It all makes perfect sense for a smaller battleship that moves like a Stingray!
The C7 has to be efficient the so called wide body is not. Every inefficient element has been cancelled so far in the C7. The big mouth is replaced by the smaller C6 base like front intake scheme, and the E85 bump, all lessoning drag running cooler. The bigger wheels, tires, and flares are replaced by smaller ones decreasing unsprung weight and wasteful drag. The Super Sports are supposed to be awesome tires and they certainly play a big role in their C7 design exercise. Their use and all the C7 torque is converted into less unsprung weight and more aero down force. It all makes perfect sense for a smaller battleship that moves like a Stingray!