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Old Jan 15, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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Just talked to my sales representative, the dealer is expecting my order to be picked up. This consensus (?), wouldn't commit. First positive I heard from my dealer, allocation date must be close.
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Just talked to my sales representative, the dealer is expecting my order to be picked up. This consensus (?), wouldn't commit. First positive I heard from my dealer, allocation date must be close.
So you moved past the 1100 club?

2000 is order accepted by GM.

Until then, you are just hoping your dealer can or will get an allocation.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 02:28 PM
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My allocation report today (1/16/14)

VETALL Constraints
Target Production Period : 02/10/2014 - 02/16/2014

Constraint Number Description National Qty, Constraint Qty, Placed Qty
01258 FAY-CARBON FIBER INTERIOR TRIM, INSTRUMENT PANEL 9, 1 ,0
01485 C2Z-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED ROOF PANEL 12 ,1 ,1
01486 C2M-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED AND TRANS ROOF PANEL 0 ,0 ,0
01580 Z51 PERFORMANCE PKG. 62, 4, 4
01655 C2Q-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED AND PAINTED ROOF PANEL 0, 0, 0
01657 CFA-PAINTED CARBON FIBER ROOF PANEL 40, 2, 1
01795 VLI-LPO,CARGO MATS,REVERSIBLE, STINGRAY LOGO 0, 0, 0

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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken Fichtner
My allocation report today (1/16/14)

VETALL Constraints
Target Production Period : 02/10/2014 - 02/16/2014

Constraint Number Description National Qty, Constraint Qty, Placed Qty
01258 FAY-CARBON FIBER INTERIOR TRIM, INSTRUMENT PANEL 9, 1 ,0
01485 C2Z-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED ROOF PANEL 12 ,1 ,1
01486 C2M-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED AND TRANS ROOF PANEL 0 ,0 ,0
01580 Z51 PERFORMANCE PKG. 62, 4, 4
01655 C2Q-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED AND PAINTED ROOF PANEL 0, 0, 0
01657 CFA-PAINTED CARBON FIBER ROOF PANEL 40, 2, 1
01795 VLI-LPO,CARGO MATS,REVERSIBLE, STINGRAY LOGO 0, 0, 0
Thanks Ken for providing the constraint update.

May I assume that for the FAY option there were only nine units available for the entire national marketplace this week?
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken Fichtner
My allocation report today (1/16/14)

VETALL Constraints
Target Production Period : 02/10/2014 - 02/16/2014

Constraint Number Description National Qty, Constraint Qty, Placed Qty
01258 FAY-CARBON FIBER INTERIOR TRIM, INSTRUMENT PANEL 9, 1 ,0
01485 C2Z-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED ROOF PANEL 12 ,1 ,1
01486 C2M-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED AND TRANS ROOF PANEL 0 ,0 ,0
01580 Z51 PERFORMANCE PKG. 62, 4, 4
01655 C2Q-CARBON FIBER EXPOSED AND PAINTED ROOF PANEL 0, 0, 0
01657 CFA-PAINTED CARBON FIBER ROOF PANEL 40, 2, 1
01795 VLI-LPO,CARGO MATS,REVERSIBLE, STINGRAY LOGO 0, 0, 0
Ken, does this mean that you got 1 FAY, 1 C2Z and 4 Z51s in this consensus?
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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I just got a call from my dealer who says my order was assigned an allocation with all options including FAY. Not sure I phrased that correct! But I should see something other than 1100 on tuesday!

Of course I'm not counting my chickens either...
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 04:53 PM
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I just got a call from my dealer who says my order was assigned an allocation with all options including FAY. Not sure I phrased that correct! But I should see something other than 1100 on tuesday!

Of course I'm not counting my chickens either...
demand the screen print/PDF report showing 2000
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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I'm beginning to think that different dealers not only have different allocations but even different constraints or that constraints may be handled differently. I placed my order on 1/6/14 (I was #204 when I gave him a refundable deposit on 9/17). He placed my order along with 25 (mine made 26) other all sold orders on 1/14 with GM. Looking at my Order Workbench sheet today, it's at 2000. It is a 2LT Z51 w/painted roof and no other exposed CF. The "big boys" bring home the bacon and this is my second order with this dealer! He says I should be looking at 6-6.5 weeks to have it made. Shipping to Phoenix for a CD may be the real hangup.
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeK
I'm beginning to think that different dealers not only have different allocations but even different constraints or that constraints may be handled differently. I.
no..it's one system...but it works like this...say this week they give the word that 67 Z51's will be allowed Nationwide....those 67 are spread per the guide numbers (corvette size classification)...to the dealers...so criswell gets 5, coughlin 5, etc. and by the time the 67 are spread there are none for the dealers that did not support Chevrolet when they needed to be supported back in the dark days of 2008-2010...

ask your dealer why he did'nt take a few C6's to help out Chevrolet ...many turned up their nose at chev and told them to pound sand...and so they get screwed now and whine...

you may no like it, but it is the way the world is....
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Glen e: Reading your last post which I'll assume was not directed at me, my dealer was supporting GM and had at least 50+ 2013 vettes on his lot mid summer. He's got to be in the top 5 today. BTW, his "Allocation Group" is VETOPE while Ken's Group is VETALL and I suspect that each Group may have different constraints.
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Can someone explain why FAY-carbon fiber interior trim has been on constraint for so long, but over that same time period, several members have ordered and received the part from Chevrolet. Do they not all come from the same source? I would think Chevy would use what they have to build new cars, before they sold them to current owners wanting to upgrade??
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Originally Posted by USMCVETC7
Can someone explain why FAY-carbon fiber interior trim has been on constraint for so long, but over that same time period, several members have ordered and received the part from Chevrolet. Do they not all come from the same source? I would think Chevy would use what they have to build new cars, before they sold them to current owners wanting to upgrade??
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCVETC7
Can someone explain why FAY-carbon fiber interior trim has been on constraint for so long, but over that same time period, several members have ordered and received the part from Chevrolet. Do they not all come from the same source? I would think Chevy would use what they have to build new cars, before they sold them to current owners wanting to upgrade??
In automotive supply businesses, you have to have replacement parts available for repairs, etc. My take on this is that they are splitting production to fill the parts inventory along with the parts for new builds.
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Glen e
no..it's one system...but it works like this...say this week they give the word that 67 Z51's will be allowed Nationwide....those 67 are spread per the guide numbers (corvette size classification)...to the dealers...so criswell gets 5, coughlin 5, etc. and by the time the 67 are spread there are none for the dealers that did not support Chevrolet when they needed to be supported back in the dark days of 2008-2010...
I suspect this is 100% correct.
I ordered a Base C7 from one of the big 3 East Coast dealers earlier this week and he told it will be at 2000 early next week and that he expects the TPW to be the week of 2/17 and that it should arrive at the dealership within 30 days of 2/17. We will see, but I expect with the number of Corvettes they sell, he is correct.
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Old Jan 17, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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Here is how it worked with an Honest small dealer for me. I had talked to two other dealer prior and I could tell they were not sure they would get another allocation.

Asked about ordering a car on Oct 21. Dealer explained he did not have an allocation at the moment. He also explained some times some options I wanted are on constraint.

I was told if I gave a 1K refundable deposit I would be 1st in line for a Z51 coupe. He said he expected one or two allocations before Christmas and 3 or 4 more after the new year, but did not know how many could be Z51.

I gave my deposit and how I wanted the car built on 21 Oct.

28 Oct I passed on the first allocation, all tops but transparent on constraint, FEY on constraint.

3 Dec, he called stated no constraints for what I wanted. We went over it twice, Z51, FEY, Exposed CF top and so on.

5 Dec, email from him with order number and at 1100.

6 Dec, at 2000

18 Dec 3000

8 Jan 3400 with a TPW 1/13/14

16 Jan car built with a VIN
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To those that know:

What are the dealer-specific pre-requisites for a dealer to be able to enter an order into the GM system and receive an order status of 1100? I understand that the vehicle options selected must be build-able, but I am trying to understand if the GM order system can allow a dealer to order a car that they cannot fulfill due to allocation and constraint issues. I presume the constraint issue is too unpredictable, but will the system allow a dealer to over-extend his orders beyond what GM intends to allocate to that dealer?

I am also interested in understanding whether the order simply rolls over to the next model year until an allocation is available to that dealer in the case of constrained items, or if you have to start all over again.
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I am also interested in understanding whether the order simply rolls over to the next model year until an allocation is available to that dealer in the case of constrained items, or if you have to start all over again.
It does not roll over from 2014 to 2015. If your 2014 doesn't get built and you want a 2015, you must start over and work within whatever your dealers allocation for 2015 is.
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My dealer thought my order will be picked up in this Consensus period or the next. From what I have seen my order didn't get picked up; Still! GM tracker still says order placed. The way this so called system works or doesn't (GM needs to rethink, sold units should be built before dealer stock). One thing for sure; I'll never do a pre delivery trade in again!
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
My dealer thought my order will be picked up in this Consensus period or the next. From what I have seen my order didn't get picked up; Still! GM tracker still says order placed. The way this so called system works or doesn't (GM needs to rethink, sold units should be built before dealer stock). One thing for sure; I'll never do a pre delivery trade in again!
You need to talk to your dealer to know. The tracking system isn't updated instantly. My order was attached to an allocation yesterday but I don't think Chevy will actually update the order until at least Tuesday.

Reality is that it probably wasn't put with an allocation yet though, usually the dealer will call you to reconfirm your options one last time.

If I remember correctly, you don't have any constraint items so I would be concerned about that dealers ability to deliver. I had four constraint items on my order which is why I've been waiting since 11/11. A clear order with my dealer probably would have been delivered already.

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Originally Posted by markk1
To those that know:

What are the dealer-specific pre-requisites for a dealer to be able to enter an order into the GM system and receive an order status of 1100? I understand that the vehicle options selected must be build-able, but I am trying to understand if the GM order system can allow a dealer to order a car that they cannot fulfill due to allocation and constraint issues. I presume the constraint issue is too unpredictable, but will the system allow a dealer to over-extend his orders beyond what GM intends to allocate to that dealer?

I am also interested in understanding whether the order simply rolls over to the next model year until an allocation is available to that dealer in the case of constrained items, or if you have to start all over again.
Dealer can enter an order any time he wants for a car or truck, even if he does not have an allocation. Dealer can enter an order for a vehicale he knows he will never get an allocation for. The customer will get an order number and it will show 1100 until the end of time. GM will just never pick up the order, so it will never go to 2000.

This is from first hand experiance in 2000 and 2001 when I had an 01 Duramax Crew Cab Dually on order is SLT trim. 9 months later I learend from GMC that that dealer would never ever get an allocation for a Duramax equiped truck.

Please understand, an order with the dealer and a 1100 status means nothing if the dealer does not have an allocation, or if the dealer will never get an allocation.
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