I will talk to my dealer this coming week. The PA Auto Show is next weekend, trying to get tickets from dealer. See what additional news he has at that time. I have not given up hope, dealer seems confident. I am number one in line of three allocations. If the order process doesn't work out, I will purchase from a dealer's inventory, somewhere. Maybe even get a better deal?

 

Thanks, Dave. Just wanted to be sure before I go in to talk to the Sales Manager at my dealer. Based on the e-mails I have received from my salesman, he wants me to believe that the order is placed and that it is only a matter of time before GM accepts it. He has also been hiding behind the constraints, saying that the Z51 and standard roof constraints are holding back my order, but I know they have been around 50% for a while. That slows things up, not stops them unless GM has not given them an allocation that includes the constrained item (if I understand the process correctly). I already either know more about the system than the salesman does, or that he lets on. I just need to know when to call "BS" on what they try to tell me when I go in there. They will want me to wait it out; I am not so sure they will ever get the allocation they need for my order...I intend to have them prove to me the likelihood of that happening.

 

Since your from Manheim did you order your car from Hondru? If you did they were not one of the 900 Stingray dealers. GM only announced a couple of week ago that the rest of the dealers could sell the C7. They have to buy tools, send a tech to training, and a sales rep to driving school in Vegas. If they haven't done that then they are not getting a car.

Fredericks in Lebanon told a guy they could order a C7 and after the guy waiting 4 months and being told the order should be picked up next week he went to Klick-Lewis and got his car ordered built in 4 weeks.

Klick-Lewis is the second largest Corvette dealer in the state next to Reedman-Toll and they have 24 allocations for round 2. Since you don't want Z-51 they could get you a car quick.

 

Zymurgy,
Correct, I received 4 allocations and all of them were for Z51 cars. I received 1 allocation for FAY and 1 allocation for C2z. It's a juggling act for every dealer, every week! We cross our fingers and hope to place orders. I always work from my oldest to newest order and so far this model year I have filled every sold order request.

markk1,

"What are the dealer-specific pre-requisites for a dealer to be able to enter an order into the GM system and receive an order status of 1100? I understand that the vehicle options selected must be build-able, but I am trying to understand if the GM order system can allow a dealer to order a car that they cannot fulfill due to allocation and constraint issues. I presume the constraint issue is too unpredictable, but will the system allow a dealer to over-extend his orders beyond what GM intends to allocate to that dealer?"

Every Stingray dealer has the ability to place an order request (results in an order showing an event code of 1100) regardless of constraints. The order will remain at an event code of 1100 until the dealer has 1) An allocation (occurs on Thursday), and 2) The dealer has a constraint quantity if the order includes a constraint that week.
At that moment (on Thursday), the dealer can place the order and the event code immediately changes to 2000 or the dealer can allow the system to place the order on the following Tuesday.

"I am also interested in understanding whether the order simply rolls over to the next model year until an allocation is available to that dealer in the case of constrained items, or if you have to start all over again."

The order doesn't roll over. Once final allocations are generated the order won't be approved. Dealers are then notified when they can begin submitting order requests for the next model year.

Ken

 

Ken,
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I appreciate hearing the information directly from a dealer with intimate knowledge of the system.

 

Ordered from Hondru.

 

I hope you get your car but it sounds like they are jerking you around. When they tell you your order should start to move shortly they are only guessing.

 

We will see, if the order doesn't get picked up in the next three weeks my delivery date will be compromised.

 

[QUOTE=Ken Fichtner;1585954296]Zymurgy,
Correct, I received 4 allocations and all of them were for Z51 cars. I received 1 allocation for FAY and 1 allocation for C2z. It's a juggling act for every dealer, every week! We cross our fingers and hope to place orders. I always work from my oldest to newest order and so far this model year I have filled every sold order request.

Have you received any GM information that suggests that the Z51 and FAY constraints will dramatically improve over the next four weeks?

My 09.09 order from a small dealer [with one confirmed vert allocation] is for a Z51/FAY vert and is still at 1100, my goal is to have it delivered in April. Is that even feasible at this point, or, should I start thinking about a 2015 order with a larger dealer?

 

I worked a deal with my local dealer and will honor our agreement (when I do an agreement, it is in stone). Now my dealer has to figure out how to deliver, I am going to start inquiring on a weekly bases. There currently three dealers in my area with unsold inventory, one at each, all are coupes.

 

I got some more information from my dealer. They are a top dealer in Canada and they told me GM Canada isn't doing allocations the same way they are doing them in the US. They aren't told how many allocations they get. They are just told when they can order a car with some manual allocation process. I don't know all the details about this.

They have been given exactly 2 cars up to this point. 2 freaking cars. This is pretty ridiculous on GM's part that a top corvette dealer for an entire country is getting so little. I'm 5th in the queue right now.

As a trying to be first time GM customer this is pretty discouraging that some customers from dealers in the US can get their order rolling in 3 weeks and a top corvette dealer in a country can't get more than 2 cars in 5 months.

I literally don't think I can find a higher volume dealer in the country so I've given myself the best shot I can, but GM's approach to this is making it impossible.

 

So I guess you realize that impossibility (i.e., GM won't build the dealer a car) is a stone crusher (and also a complete defense to contract enforcement).

 

Unfortunately! Not being able to secure a car, no fault of their own falls under Force Najeure. We'll see, there are dealers in my area with at least one car in inventory. I have not given up and will start to inquire through the ranks as to what is happening. Don't expect a lot but people will know I am looking for answers. Who knows? I have ordered five cars previously, this is the first order that just sat (this is the first order with the ability to track progress). All previous orders produced a car in three/four months. There are avenues where the dealer can go to acquire a car, there are sales tax issues.

 

Larry,

You should already be driving your car. You don't have any constraint items so if they were getting ANY allocations I would have expected your order to be done.

I would call them up today and ask for proof of their allocations and ask exactly when they are going to apply one to your order. If they can't give you real proof, I think it's time for you to tell them you're walking due to their inability to fulfill the deal.

My car with the order placed 11/11/13 with 4 constraint items finally got an allocation last week from a forum dealer. He has two convertible 3LT's in stock and two 2LT's inbound. I was there yesterday and there were at least 9 non-z51 coupes in his warehouse. Non-z51 allocations have obviously not been a problem for him, or the other dealers (some have up to 40 in stock!).

You've done nothing wrong if you want to leave that dealer, they have failed you on something that any of the forum dealers could have delivered in as little as 6 weeks.

Hope it works out for you.

 

Oh, it will work out. There might be some creative ordering, in the end everything will be fine. It is only a car order.

 

Okay, but you keep bringing it up in posts so I thought it may be bugging you more than that.

 

"Force Majeure"

 

Quick question to refresh my memory.....

Small dealer....if no constraints....but for some reason can't get allocation......will a Corvette Museum Delivery "assist" in making it happen sooner??

 

No. You need an allocation to go anywhere.

 

Thanks...that's what I thought. Just making absolute sure before I go order my '15.