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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 04:14 PM
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Inaccurate to say "nothing moves without invoices," for many initial A8 Z06's arrived at dealers, with their invoices following a day or two or more later via FedEx.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by laborsmith
As I posted either in this thread or one of similar content, I still expect shipping to start Thursday or Friday. 4200 is the magic number. That says vehicle responsibility has been given to Dispatch and until that happens ain't no unit going nowhere other than the holding lot.

I seem to recall when the first C7 build got to 4200 they started leaving BGAP. To Nashville, where they went to 4B00 for what seems like forever, then back to 4200 and lo and behold, to the dealers.

Drake, where are you now that we need your calm counsel?

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Laborsmith,

What do you make of this from CCS?

"Your vehicle has been produced, but not yet in transit. At this point, we would not be able to track your vehicle and it would be best to consult with your dealer for the status of your vehicle."

MacMulkin doesn't know, so maybe they lost it?

I'll know for sure when I get the ca$h call.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 05:04 PM
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My guess: 4B00. Bayed but not released (my interpretation) which does not preclude QC Hold but is a necessary step to 4200.

And as Zymurgy posted, vehicles ship pre-invoice. It may not be normal but it happens.

Just as vehicles ship with a rather empty window sticker.

In the whole process of leaving a deposit to hold a place before the order bank opens to getting picked for production to roll off and waiting for shipment, there are few things that are straight forward. The rule in the ordering process has to be it is the exception that proves the rule. What? But true.

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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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I checked with ccs this morning, they confirmed that the 2016 are being produced as we speak BUT have not shipped any as of today. QC has a hold on the 16's. Again according to ccs this is normal and they expect b/g will start releasing 16's within the next two weeks.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by laborsmith
My guess: 4B00. Bayed but not released (my interpretation) which does not preclude QC Hold but is a necessary step to 4200.

And as Zymurgy posted, vehicles ship pre-invoice. It may not be normal but it happens.

Just as vehicles ship with a rather empty window sticker.

In the whole process of leaving a deposit to hold a place before the order bank opens to getting picked for production to roll off and waiting for shipment, there are few things that are straight forward. The rule in the ordering process has to be it is the exception that proves the rule. What? But true.

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MacMulkin told me it passed QC 7/1, perhaps it's still under a general first week QC? BTW it's VIN 0012. It's starting to sound like being in the (US) Army.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 40flier
This was the red pill/blue pill dilemma for the buy 15 or 16 back in May. You want to be guaranteed a car for the summer, then order a 15. Want to twist slowly in the breeze?

I was feeling lucky at the time.
Build to build, 15' 5/11, 16' 6/29, I chose to wait and believe it was the right way to go . . . It does not bother me to have it 'coming' . . . 357 status 4000.

When the dam bursts they'll flow . . . remember that California is 'endless summer'!
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 08:44 PM
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Even though it passed QC, it is subject to the general quarantine until the plant receives the OK to ship by meeting the internal guidelines. See my post #36 in this thread. Once the cars are deemed OK to ship the trucks will start rolling.

It has been a bit more than two weeks since start of production. I suspect there is something which is keeping the cars in BG. If I am right, the issue will need to be corrected on the vehicles in the lot prior to releasing them for shipment.

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MacMulkin told me it passed QC 7/1, perhaps it's still under a general first week QC? BTW it's VIN 0012. It's starting to sound like being in the (US) Army.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by laborsmith
As I posted either in this thread or one of similar content, I still expect shipping to start Thursday or Friday. 4200 is the magic number. That says vehicle responsibility has been given to Dispatch and until that happens ain't no unit going nowhere other than the holding lot.

I seem to recall when the first C7 build got to 4200 they started leaving BGAP. To Nashville, where they went to 4B00 for what seems like forever, then back to 4200 and lo and behold, to the dealers.

Drake, where are you now that we need your calm counsel?

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I hope so, I really need to pick mine up at NCM on 7/27. Mac Mulkin had me going a little today as the sent me an email with nothing in the body. I thought they might be teasing me, but they said it was a mistake and that they still have yet to be invoiced for my car (or any of the 2016's they have sold/had built).
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Originally Posted by stillcrazy
I checked with ccs this morning, they confirmed that the 2016 are being produced as we speak
I hope so as I don't believe I was dreaming when I saw my 2016 come off the line on 6/30...
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 05:49 PM
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Dear Chevrolet: Where are our 2016 Corvettes? Mine was built 2 weeks ago and nobody can even tell me when I will get it. What's the big secret? A little information for those of us waiting for our cars would go a long way toward customer satisfaction.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 06:00 PM
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I'm waiting on my invoice too. But finally today OnStar GPS located my car. This means it was awoken today, most likely having something to do with shipping!
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ZEEEE06
Dear Chevrolet: Where are our 2016 Corvettes? Mine was built 2 weeks ago and nobody can even tell me when I will get it. What's the big secret? A little information for those of us waiting for our cars would go a long way toward customer satisfaction.
How about be fortunate that your getting your 2016 nearly 6 months before the year 2016 even begins.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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[QU OTE=sanantguy;1590000355]How about be fortunate that your getting your 2016 nearly 6 months before the year 2016 even begins.[/QUOTE] that's not the point. The point is Chevrolet is not being very transparent with its customers.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ZEEEE06
Dear Chevrolet: Where are our 2016 Corvettes? Mine was built 2 weeks ago and nobody can even tell me when I will get it. What's the big secret? A little information for those of us waiting for our cars would go a long way toward customer satisfaction.
There is always a 2-3 week qc hold for Corvettes because consumers have lead GM to believe that paying more for a Corvette than any other regular production Chevrolet means they should get a super quality delivery. Since buyers of the rest of the Chevrolet vehicle lines do not have such high expectations, they do not need to go through the qc hold circus.

Except they all do. It is a normal part of the auto manufacturing process. It has been stated so many times in so many ways I can not think of another way to put it.

But at least I avoided being sarcastic.

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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 06:15 PM
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Wow, I wish I had been in this thread earlier.

First off, any dealer worth his salt should have told you not to expect the car in until August when cars were first ordered. Even when TPWs came out, I still said August.

Do I expect to see cars before the end of July? Yes, I do. Am I promising that to customers? Nope. I don't guarantee anything that's not in my control.

There are any number of reasons that the cars are not shipping. One of the biggest is the fact that there are probably still dealers waiting to get some 2015s in. Production was over just 2 weeks ago. We know it's a minimum of 4 weeks to get a car to CA. I don't think it would be fare to the west coast dealers to release 2016s when they still have 2015s that they are waiting to hit the lot. I know those of you waiting for your built car won't necessarily agree with me, but if you owned one of those west coast dealers, you would.

We actually have more than 3 truckloads of 2016s built and waiting to ship. The UNOFFICIAL word I got was that they are hoping to release the 2016s later this week. They'll probably release the car one afternoon and the dealers will get invoice the day or two after that.

Then next issue is all of the early cars getting to the dealers won't have window stickers yet! Some dealers will probably give you the car even without the window sticker, but don't get mad at your dealer if he won't release the car to you without it. It's a federal law that comes with a $10,000 penalty. As much as I love you guys, we wouldn't release a car without a window sticker no matter how anxious you were!

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[QU OTE=sanantguy;1590000355]How about be fortunate that your getting your 2016 nearly 6 months before the year 2016 even begins.
that's not the point. The point is Chevrolet is not being very transparent with its customers.[/QUOTE]

They are very transparent. You'll get it when they are damn well good and ready to ship it. Be thankful they are going over your car with a fine toothed comb. Probably to prevent you from coming on here because of misaligned body panels or something.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 06:30 PM
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Thanks for the input Dave, very insightful stuff there!
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I'm disappointed in how much I see people attempting to read the tea leaves on when the 2016s will ship.

I've seen countless anecdotes, when there really is only one real way to definitively determine when 2016s will move, and that is to consult with...

Punxsutawney Phil

I mean, really! Real-time satellite imagery and the knowledge of high volume Corvette sales people have nothing on Punxsie Phil!

Why hasn't this avenue of scientific discovery not yet been pursued?

I'm so disappointed!

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Originally Posted by LATrafficJam
I'm disappointed in how much I see people attempting to read the tea leaves on when the 2016s will ship.

I've seen countless anecdotes, when there really is only one real way to definitively determine when 2016s will move, and that is to consult with...

Punxsutawney Phil

I mean, really! Real-time satellite imagery and the knowledge of high volume Corvette sales people have nothing on Punxsie Phil!

Why hasn't this avenue of scientific discovery not yet been pursued?

I'm so disappointed!

Obviously you've never heard of Freddie and Frieda Falcon. Students from BGU are, as we speak, mounting mini GoPro cameras to the under bellies of their beloved mascot and are sending them into the restricted airspace of the BGAP to try to get us real time data!

Dave
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by docprego
I'm waiting on my invoice too. But finally today OnStar GPS located my car. This means it was awoken today, most likely having something to do with shipping!
I posted this in another forum and am repeating it here.

If the cars were being held pending a fix for an issue which was preventing an OK to ship, starting could mean a fix has been approved and is in process.

Either way, starting is progress. I'm betting the first cars hit the trucks on Friday. My logic for this estimate is they will have to have a significant number of cars done prior to the shipping company coming in.

Originally Posted by laborsmith
There is always a 2-3 week qc hold for Corvettes because consumers have lead GM to believe that paying more for a Corvette than any other regular production Chevrolet means they should get a super quality delivery. Since buyers of the rest of the Chevrolet vehicle lines do not have such high expectations, they do not need to go through the qc hold circus.

Except they all do. It is a normal part of the auto manufacturing process. It has been stated so many times in so many ways I can not think of another way to put it.

But at least I avoided being sarcastic.

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I'm with you Laborsmith. I have posted several times the process used by most every OEM in the world. I have worked with all of the domestic (except Tesla) and transplant OEMs in the US and a few in Europe and South America. So, I have been down this road a few times.

A two week quarantine is very common for the magnitude of the 2016 Corvette change. The period the OEM deems as their target quarantine is a MINIMUM. If issues are found which must be corrected, the cars are held until the fix is identified, validated and applied. It's really that simple.

I have been involved a lot of new model launches. None of them have had major issues but a few had minor engineering, process or quality concerns which had to be corrected on built cars prior to shipment.

As I have said before, no OEM gives out information on their internal launch process or the status. That would be a logistical and a PR nightmare.

Like fine wine, the Corvettes in the BG lot will be shipped when they are ready.
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