Orange peel
#41
Race Director
My car has OP but the top surfaces like the hood, roof and hatch are quite smooth. I suspect those surfaces were polished/buffed out before shipment. The sides and lower surfaces show the most OP. My NRB being a dark color exaggerates the effect.
#42
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Not bagging on c vetted. Audi ,along with many of my other previous cars all had fine paint jobs. Ordered vetted sight unseen. And hoping for a quality paint job and build. That is what should be expected and provided. Think about this. That the issue of poor paint jobs even has to be considered on a car costing a small fortune.....
#43
Instructor
I was going to ask, but you offered it up... Drive an Audi, but here bagging on C7 paint jobs? Got an axe to grind?
My GS has great paint, and my wife's '14 Stingray also has great paint. Hoping next week's builds are good and that my new C7 will also have great paint.
As previously said, get in the driver's seat and you won't think about orange peel.
My GS has great paint, and my wife's '14 Stingray also has great paint. Hoping next week's builds are good and that my new C7 will also have great paint.
As previously said, get in the driver's seat and you won't think about orange peel.
#44
Racer
Regardless on if you care or not....the fact is GM knows how to properly paint a car with low to no OP. The C7 is a very expensive car....and it should look like one before you get to the drivers seat. There is just no acceptable reason or excuse for it. GM is simply trying to cut corners to save costs or they have really bad quality control. The panels are painted separately by robots and thrown on the car within hours.
They know it's a problem which is why they are retooling the BG plant with a new paint facility.
You should see the difference when the new 2017 C7's hit the market.
They know it's a problem which is why they are retooling the BG plant with a new paint facility.
You should see the difference when the new 2017 C7's hit the market.
#45
Racer
i can't begin to tell you how bad the orange peel on my brand new laguna blue c7' so bad that i think i'm going to have the car repainted, very disapointed,really didn't notice it so much at the dealership but when i got it home and detailed it.
#46
Racer
You should search around this forum...I know a few have done it and there should be before/after pics.
#47
Le Mans Master
Too bad you just did not refuse delivery of the car. If more people did this GM would be more critical about what they let leave the factory. The fact that refusing delivery rarely happens speaks volumes about why the paint problem continues.
#48
Burning Brakes
I was watching How Its Made Stingray last night .. and the OP on the red panels they were working on after the paint booth was very obvious. And why were there so many defects being polished out straight out of the booth?
#49
Melting Slicks
The orange peel on my 2014 coup wasn't too bad. I could live with it. My 2015 was ridiculous. So bad I had the car color sanded. That did the trick:
Seems to be a hit-or-miss problem.
Seems to be a hit-or-miss problem.
Last edited by BarneyZ; 08-04-2015 at 11:19 AM.
#50
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Gm are you listening !!!!
My c7 is scheduled to be built next week !!!
I want to thank everyone who responded to my thread ...looks like we have a
concern that should or could lead to reimbursement by gm ..if and when formal complaints are filed ...or worse...
My c7 is scheduled to be built next week !!!
I want to thank everyone who responded to my thread ...looks like we have a
concern that should or could lead to reimbursement by gm ..if and when formal complaints are filed ...or worse...
#51
not many cars without orange peel ...beg to differ with that ... true ..most paint jobs are not perfect .... but... not many cars cost the amount a vette does...The vette is a specialty car ....GM knows ..that Most vette buyers are particular and want things right ...
If theviousf the obvious { the paint } has flaws ...what can be expected regarding the parts of the car that are not visable ....mmmm
If theviousf the obvious { the paint } has flaws ...what can be expected regarding the parts of the car that are not visable ....mmmm
According to the recent 2015 J D Power Survey, apparently, not much. While J.D. Power gave the Corvette C7 a performance award (5 out of 5), it only gave it a two (2) for Overall Quality.
#52
Melting Slicks
I personally think it's worse.I have been working an event all summer and have been in probably 100 dealerships and I always walk the lot , and many of those dealerships are Mercedes Benz , BMW Jaguar , etc. yeah it's there on other cars , but not to this degree…I've never seen anything like this on a competitor:
I certainly agree that the pictures of this C7 are awful. I don't agree that orange peel is not as bad on other brands or 'high-end' cars. The following pictures are from cars I've rented in the past 3 weeks. The first is a Mercedes E-class. The second 2 pictures are from a Jaguar XJL. Both new, very low mileage cars - and I suppose they would be considered 'high-end' cars. And I didn't have to hunt - just looked at the panels on my rental cars and took the pictures because I knew this subject would come up again. The rental I have this week is a new Impala and I couldn't find a panel that was poor - certainly nothing that would show up in a picture. Have I seen poor paint jobs on C7s? A few (mine is actually very acceptable), and the pictures of this C7 (I've seen the same pics in a few threads) are unacceptable. But we need to accept the fact that there are many factors that lead to poor paint jobs, and occasionally one will come out that looks like the C7 in this example (and this one should never have made it out of BG quality control) - and these factors lead to poor paint jobs on occasion on virtually all brands. Those who indicate that "I have a _______ and the paint is perfect" should consider themselves very lucky for the most part because you can find others of the same brand/model that did not turn out that well - unless it's a really high-end car where every vehicle undergoes color-sanding and polishing. BG will get better and better - partly because of feedback from customers/owners like us.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ange-peel.html
Last edited by Hopper12; 08-05-2015 at 12:33 AM.
#54
Racer
I'm not a paint expert by any means, but my question is:
Is that OP effect in the paint itself or in the clear coat over the paint?
I would think that if it's just in the clearcoat and that coating is thick enough, then wet sanding/buffing should get rid of it all?
Is that OP effect in the paint itself or in the clear coat over the paint?
I would think that if it's just in the clearcoat and that coating is thick enough, then wet sanding/buffing should get rid of it all?
#55
I have to say the paint on my 2015 is pretty good. Not perfect by any means but acceptable. Here is a photo of my deck lid and its very smooth. Thats the reflection of the garage door opner in the trunk lid. The rest of the car is pretty much the same. What I don't understand is why on earth anyone would accept and write a check for any of the junk pictured in post #52?
Last edited by Black&White; 08-05-2015 at 11:45 AM.
#57
The rest of my car is the same as the deck lid, maybe I just got lucky. So here are my front and rear fenders. You see bad orange peel? I don't. I would NEVER have accepted the car if it looked like some of the above paint jobs. Car was built November 21st 2014. More puzzling to me is WHY would anyone accept and write a check for that junk in post # 52? If it comes in looking like that make GM order you another one. Why would you buy that?
Last edited by Black&White; 08-05-2015 at 11:50 AM.
#58
Melting Slicks
Very strange occurrence at last weeks Bill Kay Corvette show. Out of over a hundred Corvettes, this 2 week old shark gray that was loaded with peel won best paint award.
Oh, I forgot, the dealer did the judging.
Oh, I forgot, the dealer did the judging.
#59
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
issue is some folks do not know any better ... and thats fine ...but when they show their car to someone that knows a good from bad paint job..then the OP is ponted out the owner gets upset ..may sound crazy ...but it should be considered to take along a knowledgeable person along for the delivery of your no vette ..
OP or not can be discussed for ever ..yes ..no ..or maybe ..
But the fact of the matter is ... GM aint building a new paint facility just because they want to spend money ..down the road Vettes will have great paint jobs...until then roll the dice ..
OP or not can be discussed for ever ..yes ..no ..or maybe ..
But the fact of the matter is ... GM aint building a new paint facility just because they want to spend money ..down the road Vettes will have great paint jobs...until then roll the dice ..
#60
Race Director
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 10,431
Received 926 Likes
on
484 Posts
Tech Contributor
issue is some folks do not know any better ... and thats fine ...but when they show their car to someone that knows a good from bad paint job..then the OP is ponted out the owner gets upset ..may sound crazy ...but it should be considered to take along a knowledgeable person along for the delivery of your no vette ..
OP or not can be discussed for ever ..yes ..no ..or maybe ..
But the fact of the matter is ... GM aint building a new paint facility just because they want to spend money ..down the road Vettes will have great paint jobs...until then roll the dice ..
OP or not can be discussed for ever ..yes ..no ..or maybe ..
But the fact of the matter is ... GM aint building a new paint facility just because they want to spend money ..down the road Vettes will have great paint jobs...until then roll the dice ..