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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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ok I saw the sale thread where we are not allowed to comment and it peaked my interest. I searched online and saw the bad customer service reviews and looked for a thread like this here.

As much as I'd love to have a product like this, the bad reviews, the poor customer service, and the poor return policy makes me hold out.

Hopefully they can clean up their act.
im responsible for all forurm, not the entire company

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if you need to verify that i represent navtool email customerservice@navtool.com and ask about me
LOL. So you can answer the email yourself? And you call me ignorant?
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No one in the Lexus or Acura pre-orders has received product either. That's not helping your credibility, you know. At best, the links above show that one person has one of your units. They certainly don't indicate you have any Corvette units.
yes no one, i didnt find anyone complaining they didnt receive their interfaces
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Originally Posted by navtool.com
go away, people like you frustrate normal people, notice only you post SPAM non stop

SPAM - unwanted messages

please welcome everyone meyerweb - corvetteforum.com lawyer/god/know it all and devils advocate in one
There you go again. No facts, no proof, just insults. I can laugh at you all day long.
Old Feb 16, 2016 | 08:50 PM
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LOL. So you can answer the email yourself? And you call me ignorant?
im sorry but you nned to open your eyes

scooby asked , i replied
We're trying to verify you are a representative of Navtool. You're responses to the company's locations are suspect, you refuse to let anyone go to you, you can't post pics of the products, and you won't even post a pic of your office. Just give us a little something.. PLEASE
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There you go again. No facts, no proof, just insults. I can laugh at you all day long.
yes no proof

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35 people

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/club...group-buy.html

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Old Feb 16, 2016 | 08:59 PM
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Those links don't really help you. These members need proof. Not sure what you don't get. I asked previously, what would you do in this situation? And you didn't answer.

So I ask again, what would you do in this case? Remember you had your money taken. No proof of product besides some short videos. Snarky remarks with ultimatums to either shut up or request a refund. So what would you do?
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Those links don't really help you. These members need proof. Not sure what you don't get. I asked previously, what would you do in this situation? And you didn't answer.

So I ask again, what would you do in this case? Remember you had your money taken. No proof of product besides some short videos. Snarky remarks with ultimatums to either shut up or request a refund. So what would you do?
good question i can answer that
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Something is odd here. They have lots of happy customers so I'm pretty sure they are legit. I suspect Sammy is exaggerating about the 300 pre orders as all the other threads show 35-50 pre orders. Giving them the benefit of the doubt on this.

What concerns me is the address on their web site is the same address as below.

EMIL S. RUFOLO (CRD# 4415272)
1ST GLOBAL CAPITAL CORP. (CRD# 30349)
260 CHRISTOPHER LANE, Suite 101, STATEN ISLAND, NY 10314

I looked at the FINRA report ( http://brokercheck.finra.org/Individual/4415272) that shows Emil he has been at that location since 2001. Mail sent to the NavTool mailing address they list on their site comes back as undeliverable. Below is what is on the NavTool site:

NavTool, Inc
260 Christopher Lane,
Suite 101,
Staten Island NY 10314

So a really simple question Sammy, is the above address belong to NavTool? If so, why does Emil answer the phone at the address you list and say he has never heard of NavTool?

Probably something I'm missing so I hope Sammy can clear this up.

I'm looking forward to one of the 3 guys getting this installed and reporting back. Seems like a cool product.
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we started 2 threads

one C7 navtool pre-order
second one NavTool Beta testers wanted

conclusion: its a brand new prodcut preorder,
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Sammy, who is Vitas Manufacturing ?
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Originally Posted by AdamV
Those links don't really help you. These members need proof. Not sure what you don't get. I asked previously, what would you do in this situation? And you didn't answer.

So I ask again, what would you do in this case? Remember you had your money taken. No proof of product besides some short videos. Snarky remarks with ultimatums to either shut up or request a refund. So what would you do?
ill continue to answer later
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Originally Posted by AdamV
Those links don't really help you. These members need proof. Not sure what you don't get. I asked previously, what would you do in this situation? And you didn't answer.

So I ask again, what would you do in this case? Remember you had your money taken. No proof of product besides some short videos. Snarky remarks with ultimatums to either shut up or request a refund. So what would you do?
if i didnt want to be a part of preordrder i would order
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Originally Posted by navtool.com
we started 2 threads

one C7 navtool pre-order
second one NavTool Beta testers wanted

conclusion: its a brand new prodcut preorder,
Please tell me that is not your answer...but I think it is.

Here it goes again...put yourself "Sammy" in the position that you paid money for something that you don't know exists. You message the customer service rep for the company and they tell you to wait or cancel the order. you see where I'm going? So again, what would you do in this case?
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Originally Posted by AdamV
Those links don't really help you. These members need proof. Not sure what you don't get. I asked previously, what would you do in this situation? And you didn't answer.

So I ask again, what would you do in this case? Remember you had your money taken. No proof of product besides some short videos. Snarky remarks with ultimatums to either shut up or request a refund. So what would you do?
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corvette is not a daily driver for most people, 90% of cutomers that preordered

a. participated in our groupbuys pre-orders before

b. used our products in the past on many of their vehicles
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Originally Posted by AdamV
Please tell me that is not your answer...but I think it is.

Here it goes again...put yourself "Sammy" in the position that you paid money for something that you don't know exists. You message the customer service rep for the company and they tell you to wait or cancel the order. you see where I'm going? So again, what would you do in this case?
we have tested prodcut for 6 month, before it was offered to corvette owners

we had to offer it as pre-order to see if there is any interest at all

if you dont trust NavTool, me or the idea of pre-order, get a refund

we cant hold the money why not get a refund and order when you fell comfortable

but trust me 300 people pre-ordered 90% used or using our prodcuts now, they have no doubts
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I think what's happening is very similar to other vehicle threads. You start off hot, take in money and for some reason or another (debatable) the product isn't finished in time. By that time people start calling it off. And you end up just dumping the product all together bc of "lack of interest". Now I could be wrong but then again you could be Sammy.

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Originally Posted by navtool.com
we have tested prodcut for 6 month, before it was offered to corvette owners

we had to offer it as pre-order to see if there is any interest at all

if you dont trust NavTool, me or the idea of pre-order, get a refund

we cant hold the money why not get a refund and order when you fell comfortable

but trust me 300 people pre-ordered 90% used or using our prodcuts now, they have no doubts
So there's 270 people here that have used your products. I'd like to see half of them come forward.


BTW, I'll ask again, who is Vitas Manufacturing
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And by the way, you completely did not answer the question.
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Originally Posted by AdamV
I think what's happening is very similar to other vehicle threads. You start off hot, take in money and for some reason or another (debatable) the product isn't finished in time. By that time people start calling it off. And you end up just dumping the product all together bc of "lack of interest". Now I could be wrong but then again you could be Sammy.
if people like mayerweb wouldn't destoy the thread, you would see

a. product in final developmet
b. pictures of OEM factory plug and play harness, there was a post when we received it
c. enclosures, made post when we received it
d. menu 2.0
e. one side enclosure, made pictures when we received it
f. installation manual
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