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Jan 7, 2019 | 09:00 PM

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OVR60

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Is GM rebuilding these defective transmissions and then reinstalling them as a warranty replacement part?

Jan 7, 2019 | 09:06 PM

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RWCARR

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Duffy et al v. General Motors Inc. - re A8 transmission issues includes the following GM models:
2015 - 2019 Chevrolet Silverado
2017 - 2019 Cherolet Colorado
2015 - 2019 Chevrolet Corvette
2016 - 2019 Chevrolet Comaro
2015 - 2019 Cadillac Escalade
2015 - 2019 Cadillac Escalade ESV
2016 - 2019 Cadillac ATS
2016 - 2019 Cadillac ATS-V
2016-2019 Cadillac CTS
2016 - 2019 Cadillac CT6
2016 - 2019 Cadillac CTS-V
2015 - 2019 GMC Sierra
2015 - 2019 GMC Yukon
2015 - 2019 GMC Yukon XL
2015 - 2019 GMC Yukon Denali XL
2017 - 2019 GMC Canyon

Jan 7, 2019 | 09:12 PM

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You could always contact NHTSA, if you're not sure if you are included.

Jan 7, 2019 | 09:18 PM

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This suit may hurt more than it helps as a result of bad publicity and declining used car values. That said, I am glad it has been filed. GM needs to step up and admit there is a problem.

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Jan 7, 2019 | 09:23 PM

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It's unfortunate that GM has been kicking the can down the road on this obvious defect. I wouldn't be satisfied with a fix. Only a full transmission replacement. That's the only way it's a permanent fix. Either that, or a 25 year replacement warranty, , because they will have diminished marketability used without it. Sad.

Jan 7, 2019 | 09:53 PM

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Maybe this is why GM is laying off employees. Saving some capital up to pay for recalls.

Jan 7, 2019 | 09:56 PM

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St. Jude Donor '15-'16,'18

Who actually designed the A8, GM? Who builds it?

Jan 7, 2019 | 10:04 PM

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Who actually designed the A8, GM? Who builds it?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_8L90_transmission

built in Toledo OH

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Jan 7, 2019 | 10:23 PM

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phil hunter

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Anyone know what happened to the lawsuit against GM for the Z06's over heating issues? One of the reasons I bought a GS was the over heating problems with the Z06's at the time. If you have a Z06 with an auto, you might get a twofer.

Phil

Jan 7, 2019 | 10:30 PM

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arturobandini

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GM replaced the transmission on my 2015 C7 twice and could never fix it. Finally they bought it back.

Jan 7, 2019 | 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rmorin1249

This suit may hurt more than it helps as a result of bad publicity and declining used car values. That said, I am glad it has been filed. GM needs to step up and admit there is a problem.

Was thinking the same thing...

Jan 8, 2019 | 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MMD

It is dated Dec 18, 2018. This suit must be the reason why GM recently posted notice in December that there is going to be a fix in the first quarter of 2019 for the A8.. They know they are in trouble as a result of this. They are going to pay through the nose making everyone whole when judgement is ruled against them. See, contrary to what naysayers will tell you, there is hope when people speak out.

Pure conjecture. And even if (hopefully) this case actually moves forward GM could litigate it for years and years.

Jan 8, 2019 | 01:24 AM

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maybe this is why gm is laying off employees. Saving some capital up to pay for recalls.

lol.

Jan 8, 2019 | 02:18 AM

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Pure conjecture. And even if (hopefully) this case actually moves forward GM could litigate it for years and years.

It very well may be conjecture, but taking a look at the lawyers involved in this case who are smelling blood, seems like GM will have their hands full regardless. Lawyers don't view this case as you may suspect. They don't view this case as righting some evil bestowed on the motoring public by some deep-pocketed, megalithic, misbehaving corporation. No, no, no...to them this case represents just a giant pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. They don't even care much about the plantiffs they represent. To them, the longer this case takes to run it's course the higher the pay-off. These lawyers could care less how long this goes.

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Jan 8, 2019 | 02:59 AM

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Maybe this is why GM is laying off employees. Saving some capital up to pay for recalls.

Not quite. GM made $63 billion dollars profit in 2018 (est.) The layoffs are a political stunt by insiders within GM to hurt Donald Trump politically in 2020. GM is pissed off at President Trump because of the Chinese trade war in which GM is pawn losing a small fortune as they had invested heavily in manufacturing in China. It's all politics.

Jan 8, 2019 | 05:01 AM

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RMS73

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Some of you people are funny thinking the lawyers are going to help you. You'll get pennys, not enough to fix/replace the transmissions, probably not enough to pay for the 3X fluid flush, and the lawyers get the pot of gold. Since the issue will now be settled GM will walk away from any warranty work and can even walk away from any new work on fixing the problem and suppling parts for the current transmission. You, the small guy will be "holding the empty bag" and the lawyers will be hiring someone to count their gold or buy another tax sheltered sports franchise. While GM is a crook, the biggest crooks are the lawyers.

Jan 8, 2019 | 05:22 AM

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cowboy casey

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A6 transmissions for all, at least they work... I wonder if the 10 speed can be retrofitted into other vehicles besides the Corvette... Can the class action outcome / court require a permanent "fix" on all vehicles??

Jan 8, 2019 | 05:30 AM

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That is the 24 million dollar question. The law suit is being litigated in only 6 states so it would seem if you do not live in one of those states you may have to file your own lawsuit.

Jan 8, 2019 | 06:56 AM

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Stew24

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Is there any way to expand this lawsuit, or amend it to include other states. I'm in Arkansas and my '17 Grand Sport has displayed this issue prominently, since DAY#1! Coming from a C6 with a 6 speed manual, and never having test driven a C7 Grand Sport with an automatic 8 speed transmission before I purchased, I didn't know if this wasn't normal operation for this model??? It didn't take me too long to conclude for sure, this is a defect! I've had to explain what to expect when ever I've let my wife drive the car. I have actually developed personal "driving techniques" to lessen the impact of the hard shifting, pushing, snatching and hesitation acceleration characteristics! I want my name and car included in this litigation!

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Jan 8, 2019 | 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RWCARR

I wonder why the Chevy Suburban and Tahoe didn't make this list...., considering the Yukon, Sierra and Silverado did. I thought they got the A8 trans as well but not really sure. Can somebody shed some light here ?

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