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Old 01-07-2019, 03:55 PM
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Is anyone involved in and/or have information about the case: U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida - Duffy, et al., v. General Motors, Inc. ?
This case was filed December 18, 2018 and supposedly deals specifically with the issues surrounding A8 transmissions for 16 GM models including Corvettes manufactured between 2015 - 2019.
Any information would be appreciated.
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Old 01-07-2019, 04:47 PM
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Oh yeah this makes me want to run right out and buy one, not.
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:26 PM
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Very well prepared case. A lot to read. It appears only 6 states are affected by this litigation. I wonder how that will work out for everybody else not living in these 6 states if this case is litigated and ruled in favor of the plantiffs?
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Sounds like a well written and documented suit. Be interesting how GM tries to mount a defense.
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Corgidog1 View Post
Sounds like a well written and documented suit. Be interesting how GM tries to mount a defense.
It is dated Dec 18, 2018. This suit must be the reason why GM recently posted notice in December that there is going to be a fix in the first quarter of 2019 for the A8.. They know they are in trouble as a result of this. They are going to pay through the nose making everyone whole when judgement is ruled against them. See, contrary to what naysayers will tell you, there is hope when people speak out.

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I will not be surprised if the moderators here take down this thread.
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:49 PM
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Prolly will need the same seriousness about wheels before all is said and done....
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Interesting.....it even covers the 8L45 that's in my 2016 CTS which has these issues also.

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My sierra denali 2016 is terrible to shift!! But no chance people will stand in Canada to do something like that!!
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The fix is a new transmission like a ZF. Fat chance that will happen. We've been had.
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I have been a lawyer for almost fifty years and a judge for nearly thirty years. I read the entire complaint. It appears to me to be extremely well prepared by attorneys who have done their homework. I have also researched the law firm which prepared the complaint. It seems to be quite competent and large enough to have sufficient resources to do battle with GM. I have been waiting for such a lawsuit since my 2015 Stingray began to shudder at about 15,000 miles and I came to realize that the transmission was defective. I have had the so-called "fixes", including having the torque converter replaced. Problems persist with the transmission in my car. I have refrained from repeatedly bringing it to the dealer (who has been most sympathetic and cooperative) because I have concluded that the problem is a design defect, for which GM has been unwilling to take responsibility. I am at last hopeful that GM will be forced to take responsibility for the defective transmission it sold me and so many others and either come up with a way to actually fix the transmission or compensate us for having sold us a vehicle with a defective transmission.
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249 View Post
The fix is a new transmission like a ZF. Fat chance that will happen. We've been had.
I'm thinking that GM will have to address this lawsuit and it will impact them in a significant way. The lawyers litigating this suit are not a bunch of hicks. Maybe there is hope for many GM owners with A8 tranmissions.
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What amount of time does it usually take for a suit like this to be resolved ?
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Sure, get in line behind C6Z06 owners...

I was a participant in a MB Class Action on earlier V6s from mid 2000s; took years. Ultimately I did receive about $3000 toward an $8000 repair.

I wouldn’t hold my breath and for compensation be prepared to show damages. Best thing that could happen in a GM fix.
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Originally Posted by Spinny View Post
I have been a lawyer for almost fifty years and a judge for nearly thirty years. I read the entire complaint. It appears to me to be extremely well prepared by attorneys who have done their homework. I have also researched the law firm which prepared the complaint. It seems to be quite competent and large enough to have sufficient resources to do battle with GM. I have been waiting for such a lawsuit since my 2015 Stingray began to shudder at about 15,000 miles and I came to realize that the transmission was defective. I have had the so-called "fixes", including having the torque converter replaced. Problems persist with the transmission in my car. I have refrained from repeatedly bringing it to the dealer (who has been most sympathetic and cooperative) because I have concluded that the problem is a design defect, for which GM has been unwilling to take responsibility. I am at last hopeful that GM will be forced to take responsibility for the defective transmission it sold me and so many others and either come up with a way to actually fix the transmission or compensate us for having sold us a vehicle with a defective transmission.
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Originally Posted by Johnp94 View Post
What amount of time does it usually take for a suit like this to be resolved ?
It could go on for years, unless they settle. Which I have doubts they will.
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I had issues with my 2015 C7 from Day 1, minimal at first escalating for the next 18 months to a point that made the car nearly undrivable except in manual mode. Finally, in Feb. 2017 it was fixed by replacing the TC and doing the 3X flush, but by that time my confidence in the A8 was exhausted, especially with other owners with newer cars continuing to report these issues and others needing repeat repairs. I decided to trade the car soon thereafter for an 2017 M7, which I am very happy with. I did take a monetary hit on a car I would've kept for years had the tranny been reliable, so I wonder if there is any consideration for owners in my situation.
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Originally Posted by timmyZ06 View Post
My sierra denali 2016 is terrible to shift!! But no chance people will stand in Canada to do something like that!!
my 2017 Denali drives and shifts fine.......so far. I do also run the range in it along with one in my Z.
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