I wish that I could answer your queries, but I can't. I agree with you that only top executives of GM can provide answers to your specific questions and the many others concerning why so many GM A8 transmissions have failed. If this lawsuit does nothing else, I hope that it will at least provide us with the truth.

 

 

8.9 million to the lawyers. WOW

I'm thinking GM may end up extending the warranty on the A8 tranny and then, if they figure out a solution, fixing them as they go.

 

The 6 states include Florida, California, Illinois, New York, Oklahoma, and Texas.

 

That's an obvious thread hijack, but it's not a stretch to say that people interested in knowing about the A8 litigation would also be interested in knowing a solution that could possibly fix it. You're probably the only one that thinks it's a thread hijack, but now you've dragged me into this and it's getting totally derailed. It would have been best if you had just not mentioned it in the first place, unless your intent was to start an argument, and that's quite sad.

 

 

It seems to me that you're trying to play moderator here. I'd personally love it if a moderator came in and deleted your original post and all of my responses to you for that matter. It's adding nothing to the discussion, but given you a chance to argue, something you seem to like doing quite often. I never should have responded to your post in the first place, now I'm sinking to your level.

It's kind of ironic that you complain that you think his post doesn't belong in this thread, but by adding that post in the first place, you're also adding something to the thread that doesn't belong.

 

My favorite ice cream is Vanilla...... no, strawberry....... no wait, chocolate.

 

If y'all recall 2001 Corvette oil consumption issue. GM did come up with a fix and after putting owners through all testing rigors the fix was done under warranty. The cheapskates replaces one piston ring on all cylinders. So maybe they will fix this trans issue. Call me optimistic. I had a 2001 Z06 oiler repaired.

 

My wife's car is a 2011 Toyota Camry, out of warranty for many years. But recently we got a notice from Toyota that some owners, particularly in the South, had some cosmetic deterioration of the dash. We had never heard of this problem before or known anyone who has. But Toyota was extending the dash warranty to ten years or 100k miles, no cost to owner for warranty or repairs.

Compare that to the 3LT/3LZ leather dash problems that GM usually refuses to fix even if the car is still under warranty. Or the A8 problems being litigated now.

Not hard to figure why we switched to Japanese for our family cars cars three decades ago and never looked back.

 

No that can't be done. The reason is, the cars were certified with the A8 transmission and the gasoline consumption was calculated with the A8 (which is supposed to get better gas mileage than the A6). So GM can't backtrack and put A6s in the newer cars. It's just my opinion, but if the A6 swap was an option GM probably would have made a change long ago. BTW, you're not alone, this suggestion has come up before and the response I listed is the reason it doesn't happen.

 

 

At least once every quarter, I get a big envelop in the mail for some law firm for some class action lawsuit where I am a member of the "class". They want me to fill out pages and pages of forms, which often takes me hours. Then years later, I receive a check for $5, a $30 coupon off for the next purchase, or some such settlement. I used to fill them all out, but not anymore. It is not worth my time to put together the documentation to enrich the vultures. The Lawyers get the lion's share, and the actual victims get crumbs not worth the time to put together all the documentation.

I was in the market for a new daily driver and went to the local auto show over Thanksgiving. Ok, I'll admit I went over and looked at the Chevy, GMC and Caddies and ran, not walked away from them when I saw that most still had the A8. Yeah, I sure would buy another with the discount coupon that I would no doubt receive as part of the settlement.

 

And just why do think that? We are not in any way beholden to GM. As long as this thread does not violate the rules or degenerate into a pissing match, there is no reason to "take down this thread".

 

Isn't the fix that you learn to use your left foot again? you know, to manually shift a car...more fun anyway.

 

We had this discussion last night at our Corvette club meeting. The reality is many who know how to shift manually are older. Younger buyers aren't interested in learning to drive a manual. When folks are married, then you run into if one of the partners doesn't drive a manual, the answer is buy an auto transmission. This is beginning to affect used Corvette prices big time. The C5 manual transmission used to command an extra $1K on resale. Today, you're lucky if you can get the same price as an auto equipped C5 when you sell. Dealers are having a hard time selling manuals. As for me, I expect the problem of how to sell that manual C7 will be the problem of my heirs.

 

that's total sales, not profit, but we get your point

 

In my experience in managing and directing projects over the last 20 years I have found that with cost constraints, resources are often cut or cannibalized to help recover and keep other projects moving. This is most likely the real reason for the delay in the C8 and also layoffs as there are other cars (projects) within the GM program that need to continue moving forward to produce profit. Also emerging technology that most US auto makers have not completely caught up with yet. Look at Ford's Eco Boost F-150, Tesla, and VW's new EVs coming out. A law suit cost a corporation millions of $$ and a financial plan has to be developed that includes market strategy and sales to develop recover cost and continue progress for the company. GM might show profit today for shareholders but a big recall or lawsuit cuts deep into that profit, and even a million $$ less cuts into a shareholder's bottom line.

One of my staff just finished a civil jury duty case and came to my office and asked what year is your Ford F-350. I told him 2006. All of a sudden he became an expert on EGR Oil Cooler issues and bullet proofing. He asked me what I did to fix my truck and I told him I had to have it bullet proofed. I explained that I joined in on a class action lawsuit and that the end result was Ford offered my $500 of my next purchase, The dealership also told me there were no problems with the 05-06's just the prior year 6.0 liiters. A few months later towing my 26' boat I noticed fluid in the left front wheel wheel. Sure as **** there was oil in my coolant surge tank. I filed a claim with Ford and they did nothing.

My staff ends up telling me that is basically my scenario is the same lemon law case he just finished up. The jury awarded the owners of a 2004 Ford F-350 $160K for their problems. Why? Because Ford sold the truck saying it would tow between 12-15K lbs, and their engine blew up towing a 5K boat. $160K for a 14 year old truck that is worth $13K, I think they even got to buy the truck back. He was telling me the team of lawyers from Ford that flew in to handle the case...and they still lost. I'm pretty sure that Ford's team of lawyers fighting the recall and outside lemon law cases over the last decade has probably easily cost Ford millions, and that doesn't include payouts to the plaintiffs.

Never thought I would own both a Ford and a GM that was involved in a lawsuit. Went out and bought a Tesla.

 

Yes they are. I just got a re-manufactured unit put in my 2016 Z51 last week under warranty. The invoice is below:

 

All good points. Driving a manual was a requirement of mine when considering marriage!