Using my handy V-WAC gage, I measured my Oracle's so-called stick-out....maybe just a hair under 1/32... seriously, I can not even see that when standing beside the car.

 

[/QUOTEMine caused the error light today. First drive with headlights on. Took 18 minutes to trip the error light, went off almost immediately after turning headlights off. Ugh! 2017 GS. Guess I'll contact JWM.[/QUOTE]

Did you guys look up the price difference and the warranty difference before you bought these JWMs and not the Oracles?

If yes, what'd you find out?

 

[QUOTE=NashvilleGrandSport;1601631235]Randy,
Not a good sign . Hoping the folks ( Jhonathan was my salesperson ) at JW Motoring find a fix for this. I haven't had a chance to take mine for a ride yet.
Rich

 

I have always enjoyed this minor grammatical error. I think of a cat having eaten some cheese waiting outside of a mouse hole with "baited breath,"

 

To those of you who have the issue..

is it not easy to ignore?

 

It is, at most, a mild annoyance.

The TPMS light blinks and an error message appears on the DIC. I clear the message and in a short whole the light stops blinking. One can completely clear the TPMS error light by turning the car's lights off for a minute or two, and the pressure readout returns.

I have decided to live with it as I like the markers a great deal, lights on or off. But I would also be pleased to resolve the issue.

 

^^^^^ Exactly what I am thinking ^^^^^^^

 

Thanks for the post. I’ve saw some pictures that Looked pretty noticeable. Maybe yours aren’t as bad. I’m just so OCD that I know it’s going to bother me. Don’t know what the heck to do Don’t have many options. Either deal with the interference or go Oracle and deal with the minor bulge. Thanks again for your time to post

 

Check the WARRANTY...

I think the Oracle is 2 years and JWM is 3 months... can't remember exactly but at the time I bought my Oracles the difference was HUGE.

 

[QUOTE=Vette Ski;1601631591]Jhonatham responded quickly and provided a return shipping label. Said he'd honor 90 day warranty for THIS issue. I believe led bulb warranty is one year. Already removed for return to JWM. Great customer service. Wish this issue was not an issue.

 

I have also found Jhonatham incredibly responsive and accommodating. Superb service.

If the Oracles never exhibit this issue, how are they different?

 

I'm not sure, but I think the Oracles don't sit as flush, and there brighter is all I could come up with. Also more expensive,not sure about the quality never had to compare

 

They’re brighter. That’s the obvious difference once you switch from the Chinese made one that is probably the same one that all these vendors are using to the Oracle. It’s actually made by Oracle in the USA and not “whiteboxed” from China for SCP, JW, RPI or whoever else to resell.

Perhaps the Oracles are better shielded internally or maybe whatever EMI/RFI they shed is just not on the same frequency as the TPMS.

All aftermarket electronics can cause interference with other devices that that rely on radio signals in a car. Power transformers like those one you plug into the 12v power socket to convert to a 5v USB power source are one of them. I’ve seen cars where all the done/courtesy lights were switched out to LEDs that have caused some weird electrical issues. I have a customer who has a Waylens 360 dash cam with 4G LTE cloud uploading in his car. Ever since that thing went in there, we have been seeing erratic transmission from both of his rear TPMS sensors. If he unplugs it for while, TPMS works fine. This is why when a vehicle is designed, it’s tested in a special chamber that measures EMI/RFI throughout the vehicle. If interferences or sensitivities are identified, they either come up with a solution such as a ferrite cap or better shielding on a wire, or they go to the vendor of whatever part it is and have them deal with it.

In this case, we’re taking factory LED lights and replacing them with surface mount LED lights...with a lot more of them in the housing. The Farraday tape was worth a try to try and block any leakage from the housing. But it didn’t work for me. So if the noise is going through the circuit, then perhaps a ferrite bead clipped over the wiring going into the housings might be worth a try? I didn’t want to keep going in and out of there, so I threw in the towel after Farraday tape didn’t work and just bit the bullet and spent money on a second light of lights. But you guys who want to live with the Chinese lights or can’t stand the Oracles not sitting flush, then by all means try the ferrite bead thing. It might work.

 

Alright, I installed the JW Motoring lights. What do I look for and at what point does the problem exhibit itself ?
Thank you,
Rich

 

Looks like night driving on the interstate for 20 minutes or so will get the issue to present itself. The DIC will give you a warning message. I have the oracles, so I don't have this issue. My comment is from what I've read in this thread.


Elmer

 

Elmer ,
Thank you!
Rich

 

Can J.W Motoring step in here and find a fix for those who purchased their lights and send us the corrective materials to fix this issue ?
Thanks
Rich

 

I asked Jhonathan at JWM that question in regard to my return. He said he did not have a resolution to offer. Maybe someone here can figure it out.

 

Thank You excellent response!!

 

I would think that if a company came up with a product they would do some testing to make sure the product had no flaws that would affect the cars in a negative way they were made to work in !
Rich