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Old May 7, 2014 | 01:53 PM
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I've had my new C7 since last Friday and the first thing I did after I got it home was pull the Fuse 41. I have an automatic and I set the Sound Management to Off, but I still notice driving around town sometimes at low speeds(between approximately the 1000-1700 RPM range) that the exhaust will suddenly go from loud to silent, but then as soon as you dip in the throttle a little bit it gets loud again. Is this normal?
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Old May 7, 2014 | 01:57 PM
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With the A6, you may be going into V4 mode. Change your center display to Info and choose the screen that shows you V8/V4 and compare that to the sound you hear.

Fuse 41 is the only fuse for the NPP valves (Theta's schematic shows this too).
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Originally Posted by xp800
With the A6, you may be going into V4 mode. Change your center display to Info and choose the screen that shows you V8/V4 and compare that to the sound you hear.

Fuse 41 is the only fuse for the NPP valves (Theta's schematic shows this too).
I had the car in Sport when I noticed this so should it be going into V4 mode at low RPMs even when running in Sport?
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Old May 7, 2014 | 02:17 PM
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See post #2 in this thread.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by xp800
See post #2 in this thread.
Thanks, xp800. So, it's going into V4 mode when I'm driving it in regular automatic and that's why it goes silent at the low RPMs, correct? If I was using the paddle shifters I'm assuming that wouldn't be an issue.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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Thanks, xp800. So, it's going into V4 mode when I'm driving it in regular automatic and that's why it goes silent at the low RPMs, correct? If I was using the paddle shifters I'm assuming that wouldn't be an issue.
That would be my guess based on your description and Snorman's info. Even though I have an M7, without fuse 41 in V4 mode it gets quiet and then wakes back up in V8.
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Seems like a logical explanation. Thanks for taking the time to explain.
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Old May 11, 2014 | 01:59 AM
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I posted in the general discussion forum that my C7 while driving in Sport or Track mode is not as loud as my C6 with the Mild to Wild/Wild setting on. So what you're saying is that to get the sound I want (which is loud all the time), all I have to do is pull the Fuse 41?
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Originally Posted by CandyVette
I posted in the general discussion forum that my C7 while driving in Sport or Track mode is not as loud as my C6 with the Mild to Wild/Wild setting on. So what you're saying is that to get the sound I want (which is loud all the time), all I have to do is pull the Fuse 41?
I'm in the same boat as you, and unfortunately, pulling fuse 41 will not satisfy you. Maybe it's my car but the exhaust always quiet down unless you step on it. With the fuse pulled, at least when you step on it the sound is louder even under 1700rpm. But at idle it will not be anything like when you initially start up the engine. I'm still disappointed with the sound at idle.
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Originally Posted by vincent_esq
I'm in the same boat as you, and unfortunately, pulling fuse 41 will not satisfy you. Maybe it's my car but the exhaust always quiet down unless you step on it. With the fuse pulled, at least when you step on it the sound is louder even under 1700rpm. But at idle it will not be anything like when you initially start up the engine. I'm still disappointed with the sound at idle.
I keep telling my hubby that his C6 is louder than my C7. He says they are the same but they are not. The C6 has a louder sound all the time, not a drone but just pure engine sound. My C7 sounds great at start and hitting the gas but while I'm just cruising sounds like any other car and too quiet and that is annoying to me. All the advertising and talk I heard about told me that the C7 would be as loud or louder than the C6. If I knew this to be the case, I would have not have ordered NPP and would have ordered an aftermarket system.

Is it the switch to V4 that is causing this problem?
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Old May 11, 2014 | 11:02 AM
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Candy and vincent,

In A6 cars, I think the V4 mode is the most likely explanation for the lack of good noise since most of the time you would be driving in modes where V4 can happen a lot.

I took a 300 mile trip yesterday, and drove about half in Eco. In the M7 and no #41, the transition between V4/8 on the highway is very noticeable in sound (and a slight lurch). In V8 mode the engine note is very pronounced all the time even at highway speed. In V4 it's almost silent from the front valves (and without #41 the NPP valves are open).

I guess the only way to replicate this in the A6 is to paddle shift. Try it to see if it changes your sound, especially as you're cruising in a gear and gently tip in. If you're in V8 mode the noise will already be there and increase as you would expect on tip in. If you're in V4 you would go quiet to louder like a switch. Or monitor the V4/V8 indicator to see if it matches quiet/loud respectively.
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Thank you, Xp800. Actually I have an m7. However I think we are talking loudness level in terms of relativity. I came from a viper SRT so I am used to a much louder, but not as nice sounding exhaust than my c7. I actually think the interior may be too padded to insulate noise. I was driving behind in another car while my son was driving my c7, and it was quite loud.
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Old May 11, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vincent_esq
Thank you, Xp800. Actually I have an m7. However I think we are talking loudness level in terms of relativity. I came from a viper SRT so I am used to a much louder, but not as nice sounding exhaust than my c7. I actually think the interior may be too padded to insulate noise. I was driving behind in another car while my son was driving my c7, and it was quite loud.
Ah, gotcha. I think the OEM cats really knock down the sound overall, and I agree that it would be great if we could keep the cold-start snarl all the time. Something like ARH catted mids may be enough louder without getting crazy (I've been strongly considering this). Obviously LTs w/o cats are loud.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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When you pull fuse #41, does it effect anything else in the car except the valves ?
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Old May 12, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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When you pull fuse #41, does it effect anything else in the car except the valves ?
Based on the labeling on the fuse box lid and Theta's schematic (below), I'd say no.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1586629378-post78.html
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Originally Posted by xp800
Based on the labeling on the fuse box lid and Theta's schematic (below), I'd say no.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1586629378-post78.html
Correct. Fuse #41 ONLY affects the rear NPP valves, nothing further. It's a direct 12v line end-to-end.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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[QUOTE=Theta;1586881675]Correct. Fuse #41 ONLY affects the rear NPP valves, nothing further. It's a direct 12v line end-to-end.[/QUOTE Thanks for the quick response to my question !!
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Just to confirm, if I pull fuse 41, will the pipes stay loud just like start up?
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Yep. Unless you're hoping for always having the cold-start sound that was discussed in another thread. That first loud bark comes from changes in the metal, etc.

The #41 fuse pull will keep the valves open constantly.
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I pulled fuse 41 and started it up. It was already warmed up from a previous ride with the exhaust setting off. I could not tell a lot of difference just parked in the garage, but will have to go for another ride. I have read the entire thread. If I understand correctly, when the car normally started up, the npp valves were open, but shut immediately upon starting with fuse 41 in. Now that the fuse is removed, the npp valve stay normally open all the time. With the fuse in, you had to be above 1700 rpm for the npp valves to progressively open even with the exhaust setting off. Hopefully, I have got it right, if not, let me know where I am wrong.
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