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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 01:49 PM
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CrystalRacer
Nice pics, NTMD8R - too bad LG can't be bothered to provide details like this on their own website ...
Exact specs on how the bars were not listed because we did not want to write a recipe to be copied. Been down that road to often.

That being said you will see updates on the website with more pictures and data as time goes.

These were the first bars on the market and have been on the market for well over a year now after months of testing prior to their release.

As with all of our products they are tested by the man himself on track to make sure you not only get the best performance, but performance that is going to last.
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 03:38 PM
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Thanks for fixing the photos/captions on your website, Anthony...
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Interesting thought on adding the Z07 bushings to a Z51! I might have to keep this in the back of my mind if I'm ever itching for a small suspension upgrade.
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Old Jul 10, 2015 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Interesting thought on adding the Z07 bushings to a Z51! I might have to keep this in the back of my mind if I'm ever itching for a small suspension upgrade.
My z51 is non mag-ride, so I also had to add mag-ride rear sway bar. Same bar on all mag ride cars(z51, zo6,zo7)
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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The Z51 needs more understeer, or "push". WIll just a larger front bar achieve this?
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Old Jul 11, 2015 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by motomanvette
The Z51 needs more understeer, or "push". Will just a larger front bar achieve this?
I heartily disagree.
The Corvette has a built-in understeer, as do most north american cars.

To address this, we can do several things

Raise front tire pressure.
Lower rear tire pressure.
Soften front shocks.
Stiffen rear shocks.
Lower front end.
Raise rear end.
Widen front track.
Install shorter front tires.
Install taller rear tires.
Install wider front tires.
Install narrower rear tires.
Soften front sway bar.
Stiffen rear sway bar.
More front toe out.
Reduce rear toe in slightly.
Increase front negative camber.
Increase positive caster.
Soften front springs.
Stiffen rear springs.

This is all taken from..... http://www.thesmokingtire.com/2012/m...teeroversteer/

I have installed the LG G7 Sway bars, front and rear.
I tried the front bar on "soft" a couple of weekends ago,
and the car handled very well.
Last weekend, I set the front to "firm", and we encountered
quite more understeer.
So today I put the front bar back to "soft".

Results at the PCA-CWR autocross today.... 44 drivers
(my wife and I in our 2014, another 2 guys in a 1984, and about 6 others in various other vehicles).
We had 10 runs each.
I had FTD with 53.0.
Closest was a Porsche Carrera 4 with 54.4.
My wife was next with a 54.7.
Everybody else was 55 and up.

I LOVE These bars !!!!!!
I now have my new wheels (they took over 4 months... but that's another story),
and my new R888 tires to go on them. They are being mounted and balanced for
next Monday or Tuesday.
We have another event next Saturday (July 18), with those pesky Miatas on A6 tires.
I do have a concern about rubbing in the front wheel inner liners when doing hard turns.
I guess we'll find out.
If that is the case, I'll have to research what I can do to alleviate the problem.

Stay tuned.

Here's my best run
(notice there are a few spots where I did skid out a bit..... probably could have gotten a high 52,
but it started to rain)

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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by motomanvette
The Z51 needs more understeer, or "push". WIll just a larger front bar achieve this?

If you are talking about a C7 Z06, that much HP can turn any car into a "Drift Car".

I tested these bars, in various sizes, at the track, and this is the package that actually gets rid of the factory built in "Push".

The faster that track, and the corner the more easily you can see the benefit of a properly set up sway bar package.

The C7, all models are so much better with these bars on, it is hard to believe the transformation.

We just sent a set to Phoenix Performance and they raved about them. And Phoenix is a great race team to say the least.

We have them in stock, ready to go.

NOTE: If you have a base C7, you have NO rear sway bar on the car at all. The Z51 package is less aggressive than our bars so you will see the improvement even over the Z51.

thanks guys


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This car has the bars installed along with our LG C7 Drop spindles. Awesome car!<br/>
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LG Motorsports
If you are talking about a C7 Z06, that much HP can turn any car into a "Drift Car".
Truer words have never been spoken - the need for stiffer bars increase exponentially with the rise in power.

I was getting sick of essentially going '***-end-over-teakettle' every time I goosed it around an iffy corner.
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Old Jul 13, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NTMD8R
I have installed the LG G7 Sway bars, front and rear.
I tried the front bar on "soft" a couple of weekends ago,
and the car handled very well.
Last weekend, I set the front to "firm", and we encountered
quite more understeer.
So today I put the front bar back to "soft".

Results at the PCA-CWR autocross today.... 44 drivers
(my wife and I in our 2014, another 2 guys in a 1984, and about 6 others in various other vehicles).
We had 10 runs each.
I had FTD with 53.0.
Closest was a Porsche Carrera 4 with 54.4.
My wife was next with a 54.7.
Everybody else was 55 and up.

I LOVE These bars !!!!!!
I now have my new wheels (they took over 4 months... but that's another story),
and my new R888 tires to go on them. They are being mounted and balanced for
next Monday or Tuesday.
We have another event next Saturday (July 18), with those pesky Miatas on A6 tires.
I do have a concern about rubbing in the front wheel inner liners when doing hard turns.
I guess we'll find out.
If that is the case, I'll have to research what I can do to alleviate the problem.

Stay tuned.

Here's my best run
(notice there are a few spots where I did skid out a bit..... probably could have gotten a high 52,
but it started to rain)

Congrats on the runs and the win!


I would completely agree that there is a lot of push built into the cars, but almost any production car is going to have that as most would feel a push has a bit more "safety" to it than a car that will over steer at the drop of a hat (not talking throttle induced over steer).
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Theta
Here is the aFE/Pfadt variety to add to the mix - finally found the card with the un-boxing photos.

Still need to find the pictures of the micrometer readings, etc. today.













Looking good theta!

Originally Posted by motomanvette
The Z51 needs more understeer, or "push". WIll just a larger front bar achieve this?
You would have to get sway bar that is adjustable in the rear. The aFe CONTROL sway bars are 2 way adjustable in the front and 3 way adjustable in the rear. One of the main reasons we chose to do this was of one main factor, "Adjustability" we know not everyone likes a car that oversteer's or even one that understeer's. We are all different, and we all have different driving styles when it comes to racing, or heck even driving thru the twisty turns of a good canyon cruise.

Our sway bars will allow you to soften the rear, or stiffen up the front in order to induce the understeer feeling you desire to fit your driving style
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 03:33 PM
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My next step is to find which settings would be best for my power level. Obviously, the goal is to minimize the 'whip-around' oversteer effect.

I'm admittedly not a suspension whiz - this isn't really in my wheelhouse. What drove me to these was the adjustability. In my mind, I should be able to find a good combination using one of the six (someone correct me if that's incorrect) settings between the two bars.

For the moment, I'm testing them out on what I would refer to as normal (middle)/soft.
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Originally Posted by Theta
My next step is to find which settings would be best for my power level. Obviously, the goal is to minimize the 'whip-around' oversteer effect.

I'm admittedly not a suspension whiz - this isn't really in my wheelhouse. What drove me to these was the adjustability. In my mind, I should be able to find a good combination using one of the six (someone correct me if that's incorrect) settings between the two bars.

For the moment, I'm testing them out on what I would refer to as normal (middle)/soft.
Correct it all depends on your driving style, some guys prefer the car to feel like it has understeer, while others prefer a oversteer feeling in their car. At the end of the day, it's all about personal preference
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by savage
My z51 is non mag-ride, so I also had to add mag-ride rear sway bar. Same bar on all mag ride cars(z51, zo6,zo7)
I'm working wtih Gene from Cultrag trying to get all this bushing info sorted out. Are the Z51 w/MRC bushings stiffer than the Z51 w/o? In other words, are the front bushings different depending on MRC or not? We're trying to figure out the differences between all the various rear bushings as they're all different between the years 14/15/16.

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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
I'm working wtih Gene from Cultrag trying to get all this bushing info sorted out. Are the Z51 w/MRC bushings stiffer than the Z51 w/o? In other words, are the front bushings different depending on MRC or not? From talking with him, he isn't quite convinced the Z07 bushings will be an upgrade for the Z51 w/MRC.
Front bar bushing are the same on z51, z51 mag, zo6. The zo7 bushing are stiffer than those, I posted part # you need in this thread
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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 11:41 AM
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I edited my post above...we're trying to figure out the differences between all the various bushings as they're all different part #'s between the years 14/15/16. Hopefully Gene can comment after him and I attempt to hammer out what's what!

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Old Jul 15, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
I edited my post above...we're trying to figure out the differences between all the various bushings as they're all different part #'s between the years 14/15/16. Hopefully Gene can comment.
In my research the z51mag and zo6 bushing , bars are the same front and Back the zo7 bars are the same as those with stiffer bushing, I got to play/ feel both when they were changed. Zo7 ones are harder/ stiffer.
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I'm half-tempted to just order all the various bushings from all the years.
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Originally Posted by Kracka
I'm half-tempted to just order all the various bushings from all the years.
You don't like the part numbers I posted?
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Originally Posted by savage
You don't like the part numbers I posted?
They appear to be the same part numbers for the bushings already on my car (2014 Z51 w/MRC).

I'm not doubting you at all, just trying to make sure I have it all straight in my mind before making any changes to my car.

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