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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 06:32 PM
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Answered my question today after we cut open some NPP mufflers.
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Old Jan 8, 2016 | 06:33 PM
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Larger, Solid pipe is on the valve.
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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Good work! We've wondered what it actually looks like inside the NPP mufflers for a while but nobody was brave enough to cut one open!
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 01:01 PM
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So what can u do to make it louder
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 01:22 PM
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So what can u do to make it louder
cover up the baffles is my guess.

This is what we did on the BMW m3 forums.
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 02:19 PM
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What was the original question?

Was there any fiberglass or similar in there, or is it just empty space like in the photos?

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The muffler is completely hollow. The perforated pipe is for quiet mode. The ends have some matting for drone.
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Old Jan 9, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mariofromnewyork
The muffler is completely hollow. The perforated pipe is for quiet mode. The ends have some matting for drone.
So how can we make it louder and have the quit mode also
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I think the only way would be to increase the size of the straight pipe?
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mariofromnewyork
Answered my question today after we cut open some NPP mufflers.
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are you going to make it louder? and if you do please let us know how it turns out...thanx

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I would think you would have to have a larger diameter valves, I believe the pipe / valves before the muffler squeezes down to 2.25 at the valves from 2.75".
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are you going to make it louder? and if you do please let us know how it turns out...thanx
What about making the quiet side straight through like the valved side?
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Originally Posted by mariofromnewyork
Answered my question today after we cut open some NPP mufflers.
I'm not sure I understand what is happening. When the valve is closed (quieter?) the gas goes through the holes in the large pipe, into the chamber, and out the small perforated pipe?
When the valve is open, the gas goes (mostly) straight out the large pipe?
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Originally Posted by davekp78
I'm not sure I understand what is happening. When the valve is closed (quieter?) the gas goes through the holes in the large pipe, into the chamber, and out the small perforated pipe?
When the valve is open, the gas goes (mostly) straight out the large pipe?
Nailed it.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 10:50 AM
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You'd get more sound by cutting out the small straight pipe completely, but the quiet mode will be gone. but isn't that the idea?
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Bringing this one back from the dead.

I'm trying to figure out a way to get under the ridiculous 103 db limit at NCM. On my C7Z with ARH catless mid length headers, stock x-pipe with stock cats, and Borla S-Type catback I was 106. I tried their on site exhaust tip mufflers and they didn't work. I have since installed an additional set of 200 cell count Magnaflow cats but I don't think it lowered the volume at all.

My thoughts are to put the stock catback on but I think in off the shelf form they will be just as loud as the S-Type Borla during WOT due to the majority of the gasses going straight through the valved pipe. So I need more of the gasses during WOT to go through the muffled pipe.

The two options I'm considering are removing the curved pipe completely or drilling a bunch of 1/2" holes in it. What do you guys think would yield better sounding results, hopefully under 103 db?
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Originally Posted by Prop Job
Bringing this one back from the dead.

I'm trying to figure out a way to get under the ridiculous 103 db limit at NCM. On my C7Z with ARH catless mid length headers, stock x-pipe with stock cats, and Borla S-Type catback I was 106. I tried their on site exhaust tip mufflers and they didn't work. I have since installed an additional set of 200 cell count Magnaflow cats but I don't think it lowered the volume at all.

My thoughts are to put the stock catback on but I think in off the shelf form they will be just as loud as the S-Type Borla during WOT due to the majority of the gasses going straight through the valved pipe. So I need more of the gasses during WOT to go through the muffled pipe.

The two options I'm considering are removing the curved pipe completely or drilling a bunch of 1/2" holes in it. What do you guys think would yield better sounding results, hopefully under 103 db?
Strangely enough, I'm in the prototyping stages of doing exactly whats needed to resolve the problem. So if you are willing to wait a couple weeks, I'll share my results with you.
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Awesome! Let me know what you come up with. I'm in no rush. NCM is a once a year track for me during LS Fest so not planning to go back until next Sep. None of the other tracks I go to play the stupid noise limit game.
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
Strangely enough, I'm in the prototyping stages of doing exactly whats needed to resolve the problem. So if you are willing to wait a couple weeks, I'll share my results with you.
many updates on this? I’m picking up a set of mufflers this weekend to experiment with. My thought was why not cut out both the S pipe and the perforated pipe. With all the exhaust going into a big chamber it might slow the flow and resonate idk. Could also open up the flow like a straight pipe, any thoughts?
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There's another discussion going on about this right now. You guys might want to get together. I think hes at the same point you are.

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