Code name Zerv
Safety Car
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You obviously like your C7. Its design team, with one person being the exception, is the same team designing the ME.
I can, as I sure you also remember, the 100+ negative comments right on this forum, about the C7 when all we had then seen were its renderings.
And yet, 135,000 folks have bought the C7 — including tens of thousands who had never bought a Corvette before.
I can, as I sure you also remember, the 100+ negative comments right on this forum, about the C7 when all we had then seen were its renderings.
And yet, 135,000 folks have bought the C7 — including tens of thousands who had never bought a Corvette before.
Melting Slicks
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Love the new rendering.but I don’t think the flat top section of the headlight( that you have shaded orange) will be covered. You can see where the body panel(hood) will butt up to the other side of the orange area. Very similar to how the c7 has a feature line running threw the headlight with a similar flat area on top
Any suggestions?
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From: FLL Florida
Racer
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From: hartford ct
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People don't really understand the law. Only when you break a law can you be put in jail. Violating an NDA is a contractual issue not a criminal issue. Your employment contract usually contains some sort of NDA.
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Le Mans Master
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however, thank u for your efforts.
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I see way too much C7 in the design.
I can, as I sure you also remember, the 100+ negative comments right on this forum, about the C7 when all we had then seen were its renderings.
And yet, 135,000 folks have bought the C7 — including tens of thousands who had never bought a Corvette before.
Agreed...revolutionary, not evolutionary.
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Jail only results from criminal activity. This would be a civil matter. He could be sued by GM and be responsible for financial damages GM has incurred. And his name would be mudd. But no jail.
People don't really understand the law. Only when you break a law can you be put in jail. Violating an NDA is a contractual issue not a criminal issue. Your employment contract usually contains some sort of NDA.
People don't really understand the law. Only when you break a law can you be put in jail. Violating an NDA is a contractual issue not a criminal issue. Your employment contract usually contains some sort of NDA.
Melting Slicks
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From: Bridgewater NJ
- We probably won't get a ZR1-style splitter with winglets (thank goodness). I'm not sold on the ZR1-style black side pieces on the nose either. Also, the nose seems to have more of a pointed shape than your front render would suggest.
- Too much mass high-up in the front render -- reminds me of the front view of a mid-90s Camaro.
- There is no need for the center "engine bump" since there is no engine under there.
- I think we'll get more dramatic (and functional) air outlets in the front hood. Hopefully without the louvers over them. All that air coming in the nose has to exit somewhere -- and will certainly be used for downforce rather than engine cooling.
I know these are all criticisms, but please know that I'm enjoying the work you're doing. I hope you keep at it.
Melting Slicks
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My suggestions are:
I know these are all criticisms, but please know that I'm enjoying the work you're doing. I hope you keep at it.
- We probably won't get a ZR1-style splitter with winglets (thank goodness). I'm not sold on the ZR1-style black side pieces on the nose either. Also, the nose seems to have more of a pointed shape than your front render would suggest.
- Too much mass high-up in the front render -- reminds me of the front view of a mid-90s Camaro.
- There is no need for the center "engine bump" since there is no engine under there.
- I think we'll get more dramatic (and functional) air outlets in the front hood. Hopefully without the louvers over them. All that air coming in the nose has to exit somewhere -- and will certainly be used for downforce rather than engine cooling.
I know these are all criticisms, but please know that I'm enjoying the work you're doing. I hope you keep at it.
Thanks for the thoughts and ideas!
I agree with your comments. We may see a winged splitter on a extreeme version only because I think they are seem to work and Koenigsegg still uses them so who knows...
The grill will be different I am sure but no idea what yet so I used something familiar.
The fenders match the position of the spy pics so can't justify changing it.
I reduced the bump and kept the center carbon fiber vent louvers for now just for a color pop.
I agree that the hood / nose/lights will be more dramatic and very interesting.
Racer
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There might not be a need for an engine bump, but a lot of people have expressed a need for a lot of storage space and with the engine in the back it might make that bump more practical.
Melting Slicks
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Melting Slicks
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Safety Car
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I like it without the splitter (though I love the splitter on the C7). And if the ME has the active aero system which GM patented in March, with one component of it being the “aero undertray” that the ZR1 has, there might not be a need for any splitter on the entry version.
Thought perhaps an alternative aero option of canards (as shown above but bigger) on the second year ZORA?
While we keep nibbling at this, we probably have many more times to learn about the ME than we currently think we know. Still lots of fun to educatedly-conjecture while we have almost nothing definitive about it — either visually and/or mechanically.
Thought perhaps an alternative aero option of canards (as shown above but bigger) on the second year ZORA?
While we keep nibbling at this, we probably have many more times to learn about the ME than we currently think we know. Still lots of fun to educatedly-conjecture while we have almost nothing definitive about it — either visually and/or mechanically.
Melting Slicks
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Porsche enthusiasts are often a arrogant bunch. I've had Corvettes than switched to Ferrari's. I am going back to Corvette's as they are a great car period. I've often observed Porsche guy's that are just too uptight especially when being dominated by Corvette's on the track. The spastic 911 configuration baffles me in how anyone could consider that format a pure drivers experience.
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And TBH, a lifted Wrangler is more likely to draw attention (including the female kind) than a Corvette.
Sports cars are not really a "thing" anymore. It's sad, but I by mine for me so it's not an issue but a lot of people used to buy them for status and that just isn't there anymore.
Sports cars are not really a "thing" anymore. It's sad, but I by mine for me so it's not an issue but a lot of people used to buy them for status and that just isn't there anymore.
Burning Brakes
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From: Florida
It probably depends on what part of the country you're in. My wife drives a special edition '16 Wrangler Unlimited that I've added some goodies to, but there are a TON of Wranglers around here. My kids honestly counted close to 200 Wranglers in one day that we drove by - and those were just the ones they saw and waved at from our Jeep. There are also a lot of very nice sports cars around here as well, one of my neighbors has a McLaren, another one with a new ZO6, and another with a Ferrari California. My Vette gets a lot more attention than our Jeep. I'm sure it'll be the same with the C8 as long as they don't mess up the design.
I agree. My area is Half Rural and half well devolved, so the big diesels and custom Jeeps get all the attention but the Porsche’s and Corvettes don’t go unnoticed. The thing is, everybody in any city not named Miami or Los Angeles would snap their neck at an NSX, 570s, Huracan, etc. People know that they’re supercars and think that they’re cool. The C8 will get a lot more attention than the C7, especially being that Chevy will use it for brand advertising on TV.
