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Burning Brakes
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No need for the C8 mid engine to offer another entry level sports car.
I hope it's world class . To be so it's should start at 100k plus and go as high as 175k for the top of line loaded up 3lt C8.
Why people want another inexpensive entry level Vette I don't get it. There is already the current platform to delivery the inexpensive 60k Car.
Burning Brakes
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From: Florida
The C7 is already there in the power and handling. Exterior and interior aesthetics, fit and finish, and driving experience are the key areas where the Corvette fall behind. Sure, a Z07 has 1.19 G’s of grip with brand new “summer only don’t use unless it’s above 70° and dry only good once warm only good for 20 minutes” tires. But supercars such as the 570s or Lamborghini Huracan are good everywhere, anytime. In those cars, the quality is just as good as the performance. Loads of leather, alcantara, aluminum, carbon fiber, contrast stitching, and custom touches make up their interiors, but cheap plastics and boring design get left out. Aluminum body panels, paint jobs that cost five digits, exposed carbon fiber, amazing wheels, beautiful curves and/or striking lines and cleverly-designed aerodynamic pieces make the exterior stand out. Making a great supercar isn’t an $80,000 or even $150,000 Job. It requires time, clever engineering, creativity, talented designers, skilled craftsmen and assemblers, and enough money to cover the costs. Perhaps the Base model C8 will start at $80,000 to fight Porsches and higher models will start at $190,000 to rival McLaren, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and the halo supercars such as the R8, NSX, and Ford GT. Judging by these leaks, the engineers have redone the car from the ground up, and they have all the right parts in all the right places. If the Alpha platform can be considered one of the best chassis on the market, there’s no excuse for this car to not have a better chassis than the Lamborghinis and Ferraris. It’s all going to come down to the exterior. No matter how much we say that the performance is what counts, nobody wants to have a fast car that looks like a 21st century Fiero.
Le Mans Master
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From: Texas
Originally Posted by vetteman41960
I agree it seem.that the entry level Corvette could remain the front mid engine GT platform.
No need for the C8 mid engine to offer another entry level sports car.
I hope it's world class . To be so it's should start at 100k plus and go as high as 175k for the top of line loaded up 3lt C8.
Why people want another inexpensive entry level Vette I don't get it. There is already the current platform to delivery the inexpensive 60k Car.
No need for the C8 mid engine to offer another entry level sports car.
I hope it's world class . To be so it's should start at 100k plus and go as high as 175k for the top of line loaded up 3lt C8.
Why people want another inexpensive entry level Vette I don't get it. There is already the current platform to delivery the inexpensive 60k Car.
If the new vette starts at 100k I'll be driving a mustang in a few years with the 25 year olds. It will totally turn me off to the corvette.
Racer
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From: Winterville North Carolina
I agree it seem.that the entry level Corvette could remain the front mid engine GT platform.
No need for the C8 mid engine to offer another entry level sports car.
I hope it's world class . To be so it's should start at 100k plus and go as high as 175k for the top of line loaded up 3lt C8.
Why people want another inexpensive entry level Vette I don't get it. There is already the current platform to delivery the inexpensive 60k Car.
No need for the C8 mid engine to offer another entry level sports car.
I hope it's world class . To be so it's should start at 100k plus and go as high as 175k for the top of line loaded up 3lt C8.
Why people want another inexpensive entry level Vette I don't get it. There is already the current platform to delivery the inexpensive 60k Car.
Burning Brakes
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From: Florida
An affordable quality car means a lower-performing quality car. For $55,000, a Porsche Cayman has outstanding quality all around. But for $55,000, a turbocharged four cylinder with 350hp doesn’t seem that impressive. The Miata is a very affordable car with great quality and it’s so light that it doesn’t need an expensive engine or suspension to be a great performance car. A Corvette Stingray with Porsche 911 quality would start at $80,000. I believe that’s a fair price for such a car. I do believe that you should look at a Cayman if you want affordable quality, or a Miata if you’re talking about my kind of affordable.
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Race Director
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From: Bergen county NJ
Let's get real folks..
Sixty grand is still almost double the cost of the average new vehicle sold in america..
There is no reason a dedicated platform corvette can't evolve to a rear mid engine from a front mid engine and still cost within five grand of the current pricing...
Hell half the research and development costs were cast off with old GM during its 2009 bankruptcy....and if the rumors of Cadillac division producing a sister product derivative.....I am sure Cadillac division paid for most of the left over research and development costs of the next generation corvette and corvette plant expansion so that the corvette brand team had very little cost to pass on to new corvette c8 consumers..
Rear mid engine corvette can depending on engines and interior can swing the price ranges of 60 to 140 grand just like the current c7 and last gen c6 (inflation adjusted give or take a few grand)
I'm sure Cadillac division can spruce up the quality of the leather and carbon fiber interior and exterior along with a heavier more complicated Dohc twin turbocharged powerplants to meet the expected pricing desires of those who like to spend 200 to 300 grand so they can announce to the world they've made it...just by looking at their cars..?
Last edited by JerriVette; Dec 18, 2017 at 09:29 PM.
Racer
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Again, my opinion, Corvette is not building a mid engine corvette to compete with Ferrari, McLaren, Lamborghini, or the Ford GT. I believe it was simply time for a change. I also don't believe there will be a front engine variant, only mid engine. I wouldn't see why the mid engine would cost anywhere near 100K if they are using less engine components, same body panel material as C7, and keeping the same business model they have kept for the past 60 years. I easily see the C8 starting at 65-70K.
Really hope Zerv post more CAD images of body panels! 12 days of Christmas sure sounds great.
Really hope Zerv post more CAD images of body panels! 12 days of Christmas sure sounds great.
Burning Brakes
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I believe that the front engine platform will continue on past the C7.
I don't think GM will risk losing the traditional Corvette GT buyer.
look at the production and 1/3 of all Corvette built the past 3 year were Z06 model.
Prior to this year and the Hugh discounts on a 5 year old platform there were many Z06 buyers already spending in excess of 100k.
Look at production and very few 1lt Z06 were sold.
in fact 3lt sold the majority of Z06 and that was very close if not more than 100k.
My 2016 Z06 /Z07 was 110k before the Callaway package.
Do you think you can actually buy a ZR1 for 120k.
No way no one is ordering a stripped out 120k sports car.
No different than very few Stingray actually were build and sold at 55k.
I would be willing to bet the average Corvette prior to the discout is closer to 80k that it is 60k.
My 2014 Z51 WAS 75K .
IF WE WANT WORLD CLASS CORVETTE WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT.
Even at 150k it's way less expensive that Ferrari or Lamborghini.
My 2015 458 MSRP 276k I think a 700 hp mid engine Vett at 150k is a bargin
Burning Brakes
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I agree it seem.that the entry level Corvette could remain the front mid engine GT platform.
No need for the C8 mid engine to offer another entry level sports car.
I hope it's world class . To be so it's should start at 100k plus and go as high as 175k for the top of line loaded up 3lt C8.
Why people want another inexpensive entry level Vette I don't get it. There is already the current platform to delivery the inexpensive 60k Car.
No need for the C8 mid engine to offer another entry level sports car.
I hope it's world class . To be so it's should start at 100k plus and go as high as 175k for the top of line loaded up 3lt C8.
Why people want another inexpensive entry level Vette I don't get it. There is already the current platform to delivery the inexpensive 60k Car.
it can still start at $65k.
here's a brand new '17 c7 advertised on cars dot com;
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$44,978
MSRP $56,445
$832 est/mo
5 miles
(305) 809-6048
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Burning Brakes
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No reason not to make the C8 mid engine a Halo car!!
That way you have inexpensive front mid GT platform for entry in to the Corvette line up and make the C8 top of the line to compete with Europeans best.
Burning Brakes
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You just made my point. There is your entry level Corvette.
No reason not to make the C8 mid engine a Halo car!!
That way you have inexpensive front mid GT platform for entry in to the Corvette line up and make the C8 top of the line to compete with Europeans best.
No reason not to make the C8 mid engine a Halo car!!
That way you have inexpensive front mid GT platform for entry in to the Corvette line up and make the C8 top of the line to compete with Europeans best.
if you want to pay 150k for a 65k car, be my guest.
Race Director
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From: Bergen county NJ
The present c7 as well as the previous gen c6 has pricing that ranges between 50 to 55 grand to 140 grand give or take a few bucks..
I don't see the reason the c8 can't follow that price range spread especially to guys who want to blow hot air how much money they have in the forums we they can state over and over again that the 150 grand is so inexpensive compared to thei other exotics they own...
What's great about the present c7 grand sport is it laps VIR at the same time as the mclaren 570 and literally cost my buddy 56.800 dollars brand new. He loves his first corvette, it's a grand sport manual in torch red and I smile every time I drop into his dentist office and his wife thanks me for hooking her husband up with les standford to buy that torch red corvette grand sport.ll
His beautiful wife with 5 kids is also a dentist in the office they own and she smiles a smile as she says to me...if she only had known her husband could be so happy about a car she would have had him buy one sooner.. (what a cool wife!)
This guy is grinning from ear to ear....it's awesome!
there is no reason the mid rear engine c8 had to cost much more than the present c7....other than consumers might accept a price rise...
Production cost wise there is no reason for increased costs to consumer...
Keep the corvette pricing just as it sits today give or take a few bucks on the high end of the range if you must,
If GM reads these forums on pricing we are screwed! LoL...
(Kidding as GM knows hot air when they read it)
I don't see the reason the c8 can't follow that price range spread especially to guys who want to blow hot air how much money they have in the forums we they can state over and over again that the 150 grand is so inexpensive compared to thei other exotics they own...
What's great about the present c7 grand sport is it laps VIR at the same time as the mclaren 570 and literally cost my buddy 56.800 dollars brand new. He loves his first corvette, it's a grand sport manual in torch red and I smile every time I drop into his dentist office and his wife thanks me for hooking her husband up with les standford to buy that torch red corvette grand sport.ll
His beautiful wife with 5 kids is also a dentist in the office they own and she smiles a smile as she says to me...if she only had known her husband could be so happy about a car she would have had him buy one sooner.. (what a cool wife!)
This guy is grinning from ear to ear....it's awesome!
there is no reason the mid rear engine c8 had to cost much more than the present c7....other than consumers might accept a price rise...
Production cost wise there is no reason for increased costs to consumer...
Keep the corvette pricing just as it sits today give or take a few bucks on the high end of the range if you must,
If GM reads these forums on pricing we are screwed! LoL...
(Kidding as GM knows hot air when they read it)
Last edited by JerriVette; Dec 19, 2017 at 07:09 AM.
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