Front engine future
Melting Slicks
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Likely only when and if Corvette becomes a separate brand. Then Like Ferrari,they can offer different models under the Corvette badge.
Safety Car
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They don't. You're yesterday's news, along with the FE Corvette, and your insistence that such a thing will happen is just laughable. None of us are important enough to influence GM decisions through forum posts. It may be interesting to discuss, but that's as far as it goes. I'm continually amazed at the number of people here who claim what they want is what all Corvette owners or potential owners want. It's not true. What you want is what you want, and that doesn't change because you speak louder or longer than anyone else. It just weakens your message.
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Melting Slicks
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So Corvette does not care about its customers who have recently bought multiple cars? Interesting idea and a surefire way to another trip to bankruptcy court. I think they learned their lesson the first time.
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It does not care about extremist positions, no. Your mistake is assuming that you represent the average consumer or that because you have purchased "multiple cars," that somehow GM ought to listen to you more than someone who has purchased only one. You then go on to claim that if they do not listen to YOU, they'll go bankrupt. That is the ultimate in hubris on your part. You want what you want and I'm actually fine with that. So does everyone. The mistake here, once again, is that you assume what you want is what everyone wants. I'm not convinced that you have the pulse of the average Corvette enthusiast. You have not done any valid marketing studies here. You just have an opinion. Don't mistake your opinion for an in-depth understanding of the Corvette marketplace. You don't speak for all of us. Actually, you don't speak for any of us. And if GM never sold another Corvette ever, they wouldn't go bankrupt. That's just silly.
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They don't. You're yesterday's news, along with the FE Corvette, and your insistence that such a thing will happen is just laughable. None of us are important enough to influence GM decisions through forum posts. It may be interesting to discuss, but that's as far as it goes. I'm continually amazed at the number of people here who claim what they want is what all Corvette owners or potential owners want. It's not true. What you want is what you want, and that doesn't change because you speak louder or longer than anyone else. It just weakens your message.
The manual is gone and the convertible is gone. Hopefully, my C7 will give me years of good service. Regardless where the engine is.
Melting Slicks
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Please show me ANY marketing study of Corvette enthusiasts who want a ME instead of a FE? Just show me one. You cannot.
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LMAO. No company in any business is going to share their proprietary marketing data with any outside source. And no outside source is going to **** away money doing marketing studies just for the hell of it.
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The more I read about the possibilities of the finished C8, the more convinced I am that I made the right choice in buying a new Convertible, M7 C7.
The manual is gone and the convertible is gone. Hopefully, my C7 will give me years of good service. Regardless where the engine is.
The manual is gone and the convertible is gone. Hopefully, my C7 will give me years of good service. Regardless where the engine is.
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LOL . . . Skid Row is what I consider to be a bit of a mixed-breed CFer, part troll, part legit forum member. His recent convertible name-games are indicative of the former. He's just having fun getting a rise out of folks.
Melting Slicks
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But his point (I think) is that the switch to ME is probably not based on a marketing study of Corvette owners/enthusiasts. I've long felt it was based on Tadge's comments about FE being maxed out combined with a belief that Corvette could poach sales from the competition based solely on the switch to a ME platform (ie, some people will just buy a ME sports car for various reasons).
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The funniest (and saddest) part of this front engine debate is how MAD some on this very forum were way back in 2012 when it became obvious the C7 would NOT be mid-engine. Now, 7 years later, we get the reverse. Just like the early C7 DCT hand wringing.
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But his point (I think) is that the switch to ME is probably not based on a marketing study of Corvette owners/enthusiasts. I've long felt it was based on Tadge's comments about FE being maxed out combined with a belief that Corvette could poach sales from the competition based solely on the switch to a ME platform (ie, some people will just buy a ME sports car for various reasons).
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Melting Slicks
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Having spent a lot of time in boardrooms and corporate executive suites, I am certain there was substantial market research done. Big companies like GM don't make existential decisions like that based upon intuition, and Tadge does not have the HP to pull something like that off. He may have led the team that put together the pitch, but he had to have enough ammo (aka data) to sell it way above his pay grade.
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Oh I agree, and I probably should have reversed the order of the "Tadge said" and "poach sales" statement. I'm sure they had market research that caused them to make the move, but to PCM's point, was it "Corvette enthusiasts" or a wider net? I suspect a much wider net to specifically include Porsche buyers.
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A very wide net to include both Corvette enthusiasts, as well as all potential sports car buyers of all brands. Basing a decision like this upon what Corvette loyalists alone want would have been beyond foolish.
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Having spent a lot of time in boardrooms and corporate executive suites, I am certain there was substantial market research done. Big companies like GM don't make existential decisions like that based upon intuition, and Tadge does not have the HP to pull something like that off. He may have led the team that put together the pitch, but he had to have enough ammo (aka data) to sell it way above his pay grade.
Melting Slicks
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If it was a study just based on Corvette buyers, based on this forum, the storage space would be enough for Metallica to go on a world tour.