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I've had mine for about a year now and haven't noticed any significant difference. It probably depends somewhat on the setting you use - mine is on Sport 4. I'm not particularly heavy footed but most of my driving is around town and my mileage, while never good, hasn't changed noticeably.
I've had mine for about a year now and haven't noticed any significant difference. It probably depends somewhat on the setting you use - mine is on Sport 4. I'm not particularly heavy footed but most of my driving is around town and my mileage, while never good, hasn't changed noticeably.
Exactly. When you change the throttle response relative to pedal travel your muscle memory adapts in a very short time to the change. Fact is when you 1st change a setting it’s apparent immediately.
Fact is if you desire 50% throttle you will, in a very short time, instinctively push the pedal with your foot to achieve it in milliseconds. Change the rate of throttle response relative to pedal travel and you will quickly adapt to the change.
Bottom Line IMO nothing Soler does that you can’t do with your foot on the pedal.
And yes I did install one in my 2022 HTC. Removed it when I sold the car and did not put one in my Z06.
Exactly. When you change the throttle response relative to pedal travel your muscle memory adapts in a very short time to the change. Fact is when you 1st change a setting it’s apparent immediately.
Fact is if you desire 50% throttle you will, in a very short time, instinctively push the pedal with your foot to achieve it in milliseconds. Change the rate of throttle response relative to pedal travel and you will quickly adapt to the change.
Bottom Line IMO nothing Soler does that you can’t do with your foot on the pedal.
And yes I did install one in my 2022 HTC. Removed it when I sold the car and did not put one in my Z06.
Fun gadget but that’s about it.
Agree, with all of what is said above. However, I will remove it from my 2021 SR and WILL install it in my 2024 Z06, when I receive it. I occasionally adjust mine and play around with different modes, so it's like I'm driving a different car each time I change modes!
Agree, with all of what is said above. However, I will remove it from my 2021 SR and WILL install it in my 2024 Z06, when I receive it. I occasionally adjust mine and play around with different modes, so it's like I'm driving a different car each time I change modes!
👍It’s a quality piece and easy to install.
It does exactly what the company says it does. And they do not claim it does anything else.
Exactly. When you change the throttle response relative to pedal travel your muscle memory adapts in a very short time to the change. Fact is when you 1st change a setting it’s apparent immediately.
Fact is if you desire 50% throttle you will, in a very short time, instinctively push the pedal with your foot to achieve it in milliseconds. Change the rate of throttle response relative to pedal travel and you will quickly adapt to the change.
Bottom Line IMO nothing Soler does that you can’t do with your foot on the pedal.
And yes I did install one in my 2022 HTC. Removed it when I sold the car and did not put one in my Z06.
Fun gadget but that’s about it.
"gadget" is perhaps too strong of a characterization.
Think of it more like a tool that less-competent drivers can use to remap the C8 throttle response to something they are used to,
Fact is if you desire 50% throttle you will, in a very short time, instinctively push the pedal with your foot to achieve it in milliseconds. Change the rate of throttle response relative to pedal travel and you will quickly adapt to the change.
Bottom Line IMO nothing Soler does that you can’t do with your foot on the pedal.
This is incorrect. At the pro racing level and even at the club racing level, drive by wire systems offer a variety of throttle pedal curves to match the needs and desires of the various drivers in the various cars they drive. Curves can even be different in different gears. For more powerful cars, especially if there is no traction control, drivers tend to prefer more progressive curves. Curves are often made more linear in higher gears.
Regardless, being able to tune throttle pedal curves is a performance advantage. The issue is that the amount of movement at the throttle body does not match the amount of air entering the engine. The throttle body opened to 50% is more than 80 to 85% of possible air flow into the engine. In other words, the biggest changes happen in the first 50% of throttle body opening. The relationship is not linear. So linear curves are not usually best for predictable behavior. Especially with the less experienced foot. Being able to program the curve allows for more granularity when the engine torque would be more likely to upset traction and less granularity when it would not. This works both ways. If it did not matter, drive by wire systems would all be linear and every driver would just adapt to the linear “curve”.
The C8 has an overly progressive curve that makes the engine response feel overly sluggish.
"gadget" is perhaps too strong of a characterization.
Think of it more like a tool that less-competent drivers can use to remap the C8 throttle response to something they are used to,
I used to say the same thing...until I actually tried one. Absolutely nothing wrong with getting the ideal curve dialed in for your personal preferences and driving style.
I used to say the same thing...until I actually tried one. Absolutely nothing wrong with getting the ideal curve dialed in for your personal preferences and driving style.
Enjoy the koolaid. As I stand nothing it does you can’t do with your foot.
Enjoy the koolaid. As I stand nothing it does you can’t do with your foot.
Still a fun little gadget.
Why is it "Koolaid" when so many people on this forum seem to be experiencing the same positive results with this device? The "push the throttle down harder" response is so played out!
Enjoy the koolaid. As I stand nothing it does you can’t do with your foot.
Still a fun little gadget.
Drive my car with and then without, and then report...
I did this test with hcvone on both our cars...
Difference with, was night & day... With was significantly faster, better, smoother acceleration. Without was a slug.... which I felt day 1 driving back from delivery was disappointing...
which prompted me to get the Pedal Commander and now the Soler....
Talk all you want, until anyone drives a C8 with one, you have no grounds to stand on except your unsubstantiated opinion....
If you go back through the posts in this thread over time it is abundantly clear that there are three groups of people posting:
1) Those who haven't tried the product (which everyone will admit does NOT increase horsepower) and are convinced that its' popularity is all placebo effect. The "enjoy the koolaid" crowd.
2) Those who have installed the product on their C8 and can't believe the difference. They now will not turn it back to OEM setting.
3) Those who started in the 1st category and then moved to the second.
Haters gonna hate - nothing but actual experience will convince those who "know better" that this is a great product.
If you go back through the posts in this thread over time it is abundantly clear that there are three groups of people posting:
1) Those who haven't tried the product (which everyone will admit does NOT increase horsepower) and are convinced that its' popularity is all placebo effect. The "enjoy the koolaid" crowd.
2) Those who have installed the product on their C8 and can't believe the difference. They now will not turn it back to OEM setting.
3) Those who started in the 1st category and then moved to the second.
Haters gonna hate - nothing but actual experience will convince those who "know better" that this is a great product.
Mark me down in camp #3. The Kool-Aid tastes good and makes me happy, therefore I shall drink it! I turn more wrenches than the vast majority on this forum; color even me surprised by it. I was like King Hater Elite in the past (I just happened upon one for dirt cheap and wanted to "test" it to tell the rest of you how pointless it was...).
If you go back through the posts in this thread over time it is abundantly clear that there are three groups of people posting:
1) Those who haven't tried the product (which everyone will admit does NOT increase horsepower) and are convinced that its' popularity is all placebo effect. The "enjoy the koolaid" crowd.
2) Those who have installed the product on their C8 and can't believe the difference. They now will not turn it back to OEM setting.
3) Those who started in the 1st category and then moved to the second.
Haters gonna hate - nothing but actual experience will convince those who "know better" that this is a great product.
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I started in camp 2 and I fricking LOVE IT and 100% recommend to everyone. Hell I’m even getting one for my new Raptor.
If you go back through the posts in this thread over time it is abundantly clear that there are three groups of people posting:
1) Those who haven't tried the product (which everyone will admit does NOT increase horsepower) and are convinced that its' popularity is all placebo effect. The "enjoy the koolaid" crowd.
2) Those who have installed the product on their C8 and can't believe the difference. They now will not turn it back to OEM setting.
3) Those who started in the 1st category and then moved to the second.
Haters gonna hate - nothing but actual experience will convince those who "know better" that this is a great product.
None of the above. I didn't believe it but now that I have it, it's OK. Not life changing by any means. Worth the $$ but I could easily live without it. Running it on sport 8.
Nice! The fact 37's are available straight from the factory is pretty cool.
I've been eyeing up a Wrangler 392 20th Anniversary w/AEV special edition (comes with 37's too) sitting at the Jeep dealer near my office.